Generator for new Motorhome

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  1. Compass57

    Compass57 Read Only Funster

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    Not sure if I’m posting in the right area but here goes anyway.
    My partner and I do a lot of wild camping in our Compass Rambler shortly to be part chopped for a 2010 Autosleeper Cotswold E/B in a week or so and never before considered a generator to supply the electric for our white goods.
    Even though our old van has a television we have never ever used it even though I do have a power converter to boost a spare leisure battery output, if I had one, to 240volts.
    My new van comes with a built in television that has freeveiw and a DVD player built into it, it would be a shame not to make use of it so my question is what type of generator I need to run a television, lights and an upright fridge/freezer.
    I have done a little homework and have been looking at a Wolf WP980 at £74.99p would that suffice or do I need something with more power output….
    Basically I am open to suggestions but feel paying hundreds for one is a little over the top.

    Bip. :thumb:
     
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    assuming the 980 is the output then it should be fine. Sadly, I believe in getting what you pay for and have a 1kw honda which not only does the job it does it quietly.:Wink: reliable, no back ache trying to start it, but expensive.

    But to your question, 1kw would be ample unless you want deep fat frying or heavy useage.
     
  3. Terry

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    Hi Bip, I take it that these are all standard fit items in your new van ? The F/F will run on gas and your new tv will be 12v so everything should run off the l/Batt :thumb: Depending on size of the l /batt will determine how long you can run things for but a couple of days and night should be very achievable without problem :thumb: If any longer is needed the simple way is to add another L/Batt doubling your down time to 4 / 5 nights. All of these could be charged while the engine is running or on hook up using the in built charger. Try it before spending money on gennys or solar panels :thumb: you may well find you do not need either :thumb: the most that can happen is you will be a night without the tv :Rofl1:
    terry
     
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    Thanks for your quick replies I was amazed to have the advice I needed so quickly.
    The van I have now as I have said does have a television in but I think the previous owner had the television added as an extra, if that being the case why wasn’t a 12v television fitted at the time.
    The Cotswold I pick up next Monday not only has a television with freeview and a DVD built in but also has a high level microwave over the sink fitted as standard, will that be 12v too……I know as you might have guessed not a lot about the van but one thing I do know it doesn’t carry bottled gas, there is a 20 liter tank fitted, the problem with that idea is my local garage which wasn’t doing to well has closed due to pressure from three large supermarkets within five mile from each other, it was the only garage I know of in my vicinity that sold propane by the litre.

    Bip.:thumb:
     
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    hi chances are the micro will only work on hook up- lots of garages sell lpg -- make sure you get a full instruction and write it down on how to use your van - if it takes a couple of hours so be it :thumb:
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    Hi again
    Can not imagine having a 12v microwave as they are not much cop by reports but you never know.
    With the gas, there are3 plenty of LPG stations about and a 20 litre tank will last you plenty. But before buying a gennie I would check the Microwave power output if you intend using it, I tend to use a skillet.
     
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    Thanks once again terry.
    The sales person who talked me into having the van has said I get an hours induction to the wonders of the van before I’m let lose on the main roads, no doubt being as thick as I am it will take me several weeks to figure out what everything does and where most things go, but isn’t that the beauty of having a new van, simular to when one meets the right woman.

    Bip.:thumb:
     
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    Thank you too haganap for your input.
    I too would doubt the microwave being a twelve volt version but one never knows does one.
    Even though having a microwave fitted as standard I doubt very much of us using it, my partner insists on cooking all food fresh and won’t entertain mico meals or anything that has to be defrosted first in one, she will leave any frozen food overnight to defrost naturally well away and as far back from the lip of any work surface so if our dog stands on his hind legs he can’t reach, that in the past has been a problem..the micowave will come in handy for storing frozen food to defrost over night in.

    Bip. :thumb:
     
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    Hi Bip, just a note if you don't already know, if you run your generator within the hearing of another MH who does not have a generator, you stand a good chance of making an enemy.

    Doug...
     
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    frying

    2kw to cope with wifes hairdyryer etc and my chip fryer , 1kw just doesnt do it, does it paul !!!!

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    Noisy, smelly, anti social inventions of the devil.

    If a genny is run by me expect some VERY early loud noises.

    I also throw bread on the roof of the offender, birds on your roof are very noisy.

    As has been mentioned, a generator will make you a few enemies, and abroad they are not so laid back as me.

    They will cut cables, let your tyres down and empty their toilet over your bonnet and down the heater intake. I have seen this happen first hand.

    With an LPG tank, a couple of batteries and a good solar panel you should never be short of power.

    I manage for months on end with such a set up.

    Hallii
     
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    ignore the anti generator brigade.

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    In winter when we are on aires skiing, every single van has a generator. No one complains as they are necessary fact.

    When we go to shows, lots of vans have Generators, lots of RVs have inbuilt generators. they are tolerated without issue unless being used stupidly like past 10pm.

    You do what you wish to do, if you want one then get one. The quieter the better, and just use it sensibly, with your requirements you will hardly have to use it anyway.
     
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    Rubbish, utter Rubbish, try taking a family of 4 skiing in the winter with out one and see how long you last.
    You and your family will be frozen solid by midnight:thumb:
     
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    i think we need to put it in to context here. yes if you are in the winter climes then it is normal for generators. if in the middle of summer or in a nice quiet sunny place then they arent apropriate.
    yes i have 3 solar panels but i also carry a big diesel kipor genny. need it for emergency grinding ,welding tools etc. could be used if nec. to charge batteries. but very often never have the need to use it all trip.
    have been at shepton mallet show when someone arrived put out a genny left it running all day till 11.o.clock at night then switched it off .got up at 7 in morning and put it back on.never asked why but shook my head in wonder.
    i do find it hard to understand why some need so much power.
    i built my truck originally to be in isolated places ,never had solar so gas lights, gasfridge,instantanious water heater only heats what you need. etc . in his day and age i would think companies would build along these lines .they do abroad. .good insulation etc. anyway turn that genny off use less not produce more.
    cheers alan.
     
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    too true :thumb:

    but on the plus side, he will be able to watch birds on the hot vans roof :Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    I wonder, do you have any figures on what percentage of the European motor home fraternity go skiing, I personally don't have a clue but I would put money on the it is a very, very small percentage, that puts you in a minority!

    But don't worry I am often in a minority and it does not bother me. but only on opinions. I do have the good sense not to run a generator on a WILD camping spot and near another camper.

    If you re-read the original post you will see that the guy was proposing to wild camp and not go skiing.

    Your advice to him (if he were to take it) could get him into a problem, and I'm sure you don't want that, do you?

    Doug...
     
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    Kinda what's been said already here?

    Wait and see how you get on. TV will likely be 12volt so don't worrie and flat screens arn't like the old cathod ray jobbies for power consumption. As you don't like the microwave, well what's the need for 240?

    As it happens we don't like microwaves either, if we happen to be on hook up which is usually in winter SWMBO likes to use it for rice as it cuts down on the condensation but that's about it, actually it gets used so infrequently we both invariable end up staring at it like a pair of demanted fools trying to remember how it works:Rofl1:

    Our Winnes got the usuall Geni built in, we've used it once in anger (an hour) when after 4 nights the batteries got VERY low, bad weather, parked under a tree (solar pannel) but apart from that in the year and a half we've had her that's it save a few run ups on the drive to 'excersize' it.



    Re the anti geni brigade, best bet is if you realise you are going to need and it's the right solution, ie beyond the extra battery and solar options, have a good read about the subject, and between the nonsence you'll find the generall excepted etiquet re running them. Obviously there are plenty of selfish geni users but pick any subject and there will always be someone/people who annoy the masses?
     
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    Thanks all for the advice; it looks as if I’ve stirred up a hornets nest with the pro’s on one side and the anti genny brigade on tother.
    As I say I don’t know a lot about this new van and the brochure I have isn’t all that explanatory I’m just going to have to wait until next Monday when I pick her up at Derby Motor Plus at two.
    The van I have at the moment has a leisure battery but that is more or lest dead within a couple hours use.
    I am very economic with electric and will only have one light on at a time, basically enough illumination to read by, if music is required I use the cabs radio/cd player.

    Again thanks everybody you really do live up to expectations.
    PS..brilliant site by the way.

    Bip. :thumb:
     
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    Hiya

    at the risk of getting the porta potty put on my pretty van( try saying that when your drunk) I have a generator too- but I only use it when I wildcamp and never if there is another motorhome near me cos I wouldnt wish to be anti social LOL

    The wolf gennie is rubbish. I nearly killled myself starting mine up and its now in the shed banished forever. I got myself a Yamaha quiet one with 1KW power and it was dear but starts like a dream and powers all I need.

    Enjoy your new van and I wish you many happy miles in it

    Bessy regs

    Kenny
     
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    Just do it !!!!

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