Gear box crunch

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  1. Smudger 41

    Smudger 41 Deleted User

    Hi does anyone know about any problems relating to gear box crunching on fiat ducato engines.Our swift kon tiki has started to crunch only between first and second gear and brownhills have put down to driving style which we know is complete bull***t because it didnt do it when we first bought it a year ago....Help.......:Eeek:
     
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    hi,

    does it do it going from 1st to 2nd or 2nd to 1st.
     
  3. Smudger 41

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    only does it from first to second
     
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    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    sounds like its the 2nd gear syncro hub thats worn but it should also do it from 3rd to 2nd.

    next time out try double clutching.....

    press the clutch as normal but only move to neutral....release and instantly press again and try to get 2nd.....must be done as one smoth movement

    press, neutral, release, press, 2nd, release.....takes practice but if it goes in smoothly id say it was the syncro hub.

    could also try engaging 2nd at standstill instead of 1st.....if it wont go in then see the top sentance.
     
  5. Smudger 41

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    Thanks for the reply..Can get all gears and change down ok..Problem only happens when pulling off from 1st to 2nd it crunches....
     
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    try a long, slow change from 1st to 2nd to see if its any better.

    my pickup does the same if i change too fast.

    other than that im at a loss.:Sad:
     
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    Gear crunch

    had the same problem in bessacarr e560. Gear linkage fiat replaced 1/2/3/4 gear linkage. Blackie
     
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    Gear crunch

    you are right,it only done it when starting of first to second.it happened to us in portugal,get it fixed now .take it to fait. Regards blackie
     
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    My '04 ducato has crunched between 1st and 2nd for a long time. I've noticed that when the gearbox is cold it isn't so bad. I've learned to live with it and change gear gently while double de-clutching.
    If you do find a solution I would be interested, though I don't think it can be the linkage and is more likely to be the synchro mesh.

    Pete:Cool:
     
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    Use synthetic gearbox oil, you will be suprised the difference it will make to the gear selection.:Smile:
     
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    Go for the easy option first, get your g-box oil changed... g-box oil works with syncro units to help speed em up and slow em down, syncro's/baulking rings don't work well without good oil... if it still does it get it into a garage... is it a year old model or have you owned it for a year. ???
    Pete.
     
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    A year old van should not crunch, take it to your nearest Fiat service centre as it should still be under Fiat warranty.

    Peter
     
  13. Smudger 41

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    Thanks for all your replys the van is 53 plate we have had it a year..Blackie was it an expensive job to have done at the fiat garage Thanks for the email Let me know
     
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    Sorry forgot to ask ealier.... does reverse engage ok and hows the clutch feel. ?? no excessive travel / or high clutch pedal ?? it all helps.

    pete.
     
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    Reverse engages fine and the clutch feels fine no juddering ....
     
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    Any feed back on this Smudger ??

    Pete.
     
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    fiat ducato gear crunch

    Hi I have this problem also. And mine does crunch when going in to reverse also.

    it was fine when start up from cold but when coming off the motorway I struggle to get first anx second to engage at all not really a crunch for first and second but hard to select. Reverse is a hellova racket

    any ideas
     
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    that sounds like clutch adjustment.
    Clutch not clearing properly or worn release bearing
     

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