Gassed When Wild Camping

Discussion in 'Europe' started by grahameroadstar, Mar 31, 2009.

  1. grahameroadstar

    grahameroadstar Deleted User

    hi,
    be warned not to stay in aires in france, especially south of lyon.
    my wife and seven year old son at the time, used too, until we were gased. it is an epidemic in france, thats according to the french police.
    burglars will fill you van via the air vents with dentistry gas whilst your sleeping rendering you partly unconscious. they then enter your vehicle and have all the time to do what that please. a very distubing experience and still plays on my mind, that they could of removed my son demanding all sorts of money or payments. cameras passports cash rings wallets purses handbags sat navs credit cards anything and everything with a value went.

    please be careful
    grahame
     
  2. scotjimland

    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    Hi Grahame.
    first of all, welcome to MHF .. Sorry to here about your experience, it must have been quite awful..
    You may or may not be aware that reports of gassing are usually second or third handed and are generally read with some scepticism...
    It would be very useful if you could give more details.. do you have a police or hospital report that can confirm you were actually gassed?
    I hope you are not offended, but these types of events have often been reported but no one has yet presented any irrefutable proof .. No one will doubt you were robbed but without some evidence few will believe gas was used.
    It would be very useful if you start a new thread on this incident, this one is quite old and many may not read it ..

    Thanks

    Jim
     
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  3. weejohnw

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    Gassed

    Hi there,
    sorry to hear of your troubles, we are heading to France for the first time very shortly and this sort of happening is always at the back of our mind, since it happened to my in laws too.
    It would be useful if you could fill in the "report a crime" etc section on the map on the left hand side menu. This will help others perhaps to avoid the area in question and any mishaps to them.
    I have just purchased Yale -shed/caravan/motorhome door alarms. Hope they work!
    Regards:thumb:
     
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  4. weejohnw

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    Which type of Aire?

    :Wink:
    Hi Grahame,
    Just wondering which type of Aire- village or motorway?
    Regards Weejohn
     
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    Im sorry, but this is a strange first post. I have no reason not to disbelive you were robbed. but as others have said please give details.
    However to say it is epedemic in france is a bit strong. I still would rather believe the experts in the subject on the numerous other threads accross numerous motohome sites from people who have contacted experts in the field of dental gassing and anesthetists whom quote " if I could get a quantity of gas right to knock people out without killing them I would be very rich" "it is not possible to know the ammount of occupants in a van including animals"

    Therefore if this is such an epedemic, as you post, then surely there would be dead people and dogs all over france in Motorhomes and I think we would deffinately be scared and deffinately be hearing about it on every news story.

    I ask you accept another explanation and do some homework on the possibilty of what you say happening.
    However like others I am truly sorry you were robbed and a horrible experience im sure. I hope you recover and continue to enjoy motorhoming.
     
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    Grahame - First I'm very sorry to read that you were robbed in such a nasty way.

    Secondly, were you anywhere near the French border ? The reason I'm asking is that since the Schengen agreement came into force thiefs can now cross national borders with no controls whatsoever (Even the checkpoints are being demolished) but the Police can not carry out investigations in another country.

    They may be allowed to go over the border in 'hot persute' but that hardly ever happens, it's a problem and one which I don't think the EU has even begun to address.
     
  7. Road Runner

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    I have had the same experience.

    But after few years to think it over more likely to be robbed at home.

    Does not detract from the shock or trauma as to what's happened.

    Would not let this put any first timers abroad off going abroad just be careful.
     
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    When you are robbed it tends to make you very bitter and maybe exagerate slightly the risk in order to prevent others from getting 'done over'

    We were robbed recently and my post above is based on what the Police told me, and although I have posted this warning a few times no one has come back and told me the answer :Rofl1:
     
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    I have a police report saying so but cant prove it was gas like they said but they moved freely over my Great Dane and Rottweiler of an ex wife plus robbed 10 other vehicles near us plus a Spanish lorry driver.

    My incident was in spain.

    Would I go again? YOU BET:thumb:
     
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    This subject keeps raising its head, I do not believe that this happens. Consider this, when you go for an operation and are given gas the mask is tight against your face in order to get the required amount into your lungs. Consider the amount of gas that would need to be put into a motorhome/caravan in order to get the same result, they would have to have an enormous tank to do the job. Remember that a van is not air tight and there is a free flow of fresh air moving through the van. These rumors were started when someone thought it would be a good idea to use cold start for diesel engines to try to get high, as in glue sniffing, from there the myth was born. People do get robbed, but not because they have been gassed, but because they have been stupid and in order to save face they come up with the ridiculous story of being gassed. Forget it, go and enjoy yourselves and just take reasonable precautions when you are looking for somewhere to stop for the night, and you will be safe. In all my years of motorhoming, that are many, all over the continent I have never had a problem.
     
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    I am not stupid (but you didn't mean that did you?) :Wink::Smile: read my post I have no idea how but same thing to others along side me as well? makes you wonder:Smile::Wink:
     
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    I picked up the post in another thread and Jim has split the topic and created this one in order that no one misses the reply from Grahame.

    So please, let's not get into another 'gassing' thread .. it's been done to death.. until we get evidence to substantiate there is no point in going round in circles debating, we all have opinions but that's all they are without evidence.

    Jim
     
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    Road runner, Far be it from me to imply such a thing. I am not that brave:Rofl1:
     
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    Youve seen his dog too then :Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    :Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
    I always knew Great Danes were friendly but Rottweilers ........oh sorry that was the ex you were refering too :Rofl1:

    BTW I'm not convinced about the gas thing, I'm keeping an open mind.
     
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    :Wink::Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    :Wink::Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    I must agree although thank the original poster for making us aware of any kind of robbery:thumb:
     
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    Guys
    I also have been cynical of these stories, so I sent a copy of the story to a friend who is French and lives in Lyon.
    Her reply was as follows:
    “Yes it is true
    A real problem !!
    It happened to some of my clients!!”

    So from all accounts it may well be true....


    ShiftZZ
     
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