Gas on or off? (1 Viewer)

Jan 31, 2009
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Not sure if this has been discussed before - a search for "gas on or off" doesn't work as all words less than 3 letters!

Anyway, as an ex-caravanner I have always made sure that the gas is off at the bottle when travelling but I have noticed that some motorhomers and campervaners don't seem to go near their gas lockers when arriving or departing even if they aren't on EHU, also I think I read someone on here say they keep it on all the while.

So what's the verdict? Would turning it off at the taps in the van suffice?

My own feeling is that for safety it should be off at the bottle but what do others do?
 

GJH

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Mine's always off. I've no experience of Secumotion but would probably still turn it off. However remote the risk it's one less and turning on/off takes very little time.

When we had Alugas fitted we were told to turn it off before refilling so that's anther good reason.

It also ensures we don't leave any gas appliances turned on when driving :Smile:

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Nov 6, 2013
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We have Secumotion on our MH, but I still prefer to switch the gas off when we're traveling.
 

laneside

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nowhere near long enough
I am in the always on brigade except when re-filling the Gaslows, oh and travelling on the chunnel

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Inthezone

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gas on or off

Below is a extract from the truma website regarding the Secumotion Regulator :-
MonoControl CS is a safety gas pressure regulation system for
caravans and motor homes. The gas pressure regulation system
provides an even output pressure of 30 mbar or 50 mbar
(depending on the variant) with a permissible admission pressure
of 0.3 – 16 bar.
A high-pressure hose with hose rupture protection (HRP) is
essential for connecting the gas cylinder to the gas pressure
regulation system. Truma provides the necessary high-pressure
hoses with the most commonly-used connection variants
for European gas cylinders.

In the event of an accident with deceleration of 3.5
g ± 0.5 g *

acting directly upon the triggering element, the integrated

crash sensor interrupts the flow of gas.
The pressure regulating devices and hoses must be replaced
with new ones no more than 10 years after their
date of manufacture (every 8 years if used commercially). This
is the responsibility of the operator.
* With an average vehicle weight, this corresponds to a collision
speed of approx. 15 – 20 km/h with a fixed obstruction.
Notes on heating while driving:
With motor homes as of construction year 01/2007, in accordance
with the heating equipment directive 2001/56/EC with
annexes 2004/78/EC and 2006/119/EC for the operation of a
liquid gas heater while driving, a safety shut-off device must
be provided that prevents gas from inadvertently escaping if a
line breaks in the event of an accident.
In combination with a high-pressure gas hose with integrated
hose rupture protection (HRP), the Truma MonoControl CS
gas pressure regulation system with integrated crash sensor
complies with all of the relevant standards, regulations and
directives and therefore allows the gas system to be used
throughout Europe, also while driving.
We also recommend the use of a safety device for heating
while driving in caravans.
For vehicles manufactured before 01/2007 there are no restrictions
for operating the gas system while driving **.
** Exception for France:
In France the operation of a gas system while driving is only
permitted in type-tested vehicles with initial registration as of
01.01.2007. In older vehicles the operation of the gas system
while driving is also non-permissible in combination with a
safety shut-off device.
Gas cylinders that are not connected to the gas installation
must be closed at all times and provided with protective caps.
Connected gas cylinders are considered to be operating materials
and not hazardous materials (ADR exemption in accordance



with sections 1.1.3.1 and 1.1.3.2 e).



As I never heat the Hab area whilst travelling I cant see the need for having the bottle on whilst traveling, it just seems sense that it is off to me, It takes 30 seconds to turn it on perhaps its the fact that you need to go outside to turn it on:Smile:
 

sdc77

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We have "Road heating" for the hab area so don't need truma until we stop.. Normally we travel with gas off.. But sometimes we forget..... :winky:
Tunnel obviously off..

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Aug 6, 2013
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On for me - I use heating whilst travelling to supplement the cab heater. I'd still leave it on if I didn't.
 
Dec 24, 2009
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Almost always leave ours on but we do have a securemotion unit and also an electronic switch on the control panel that will switch the gas off too.

Don't know how that works only that it does LOL Don't ask how I know it works!!
 

maz

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Off. :Smile:

It's supposed to be turned off when refilling Gaslow cylinders, so if I always turn it off I never have to double check when I fill up. I find it easier to get into an autopilot mode of always doing certain things before moving off. My failing in this was inevitably the fridge door lock - alerted to my mistake at roundabouts by yogurts rolling across the floor. :RollEyes: Touch wood I haven't forgotten that for over a year now .......

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Allanm

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Mines on all the time except when travelling on the channel tunnel. The fridge has an automatic switchover device that turns off the gas when travelling or on EHU.

In my previous vans, I always turned the gas off but the gas tap on my van is underneath.
There is no mention of turning the gas off when travelling or refilling in the instructions, except to turn the fridge off if refilling the LPG tank is going to take longer than 15 minutes.
Allan

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cmcardle75

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As I never heat the Hab area whilst travelling I cant see the need for having the bottle on whilst traveling, it just seems sense that it is off to me, It takes 30 seconds to turn it on perhaps its the fact that you need to go outside to turn it on:Smile:

Many RVs, particularly newer ones, don't have 12V on the fridge, so usually leave the gas on for that. Mine has 12V, so I turn off the tiny little hab gas tank (20kg). The other much larger propane tank stays on, because that's where the engine gets its fuel from...
 

brynric

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We always travel with the gas off.
It's just become part of the travelling routine, H deals with the inside, I deal with the outside.
But I have been known to forget.:Doh:
 

Trikeman

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We always travel with the gas off.
It's just become part of the travelling routine, H deals with the inside, I deal with the outside.
But I have been known to forget.:Doh:

Just a little tip to aid not forgetting to 'switch off' gas before getting on our way.
When I turn on the bottle valve when we get wherever we are staying, just takes about 30 seconds all in, I pull off the warning ring/sort of tab off the bottle and hang it on the indicator arm. When I go to pull off at the end of the stay, if I have forgotten, this reminds me as I have to move it to get the keys in. I also use this as a mental reminder to put the aerial down too. :roflmto:

Regards,

Trikeman. :winky:
 
Sep 3, 2009
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Always on except for filling and tunnel. dates back to RV days

Malcolm

Important PS I seem to recall reading that it's illegal to travel with the gas on in France, does anyone know for CERTAIN?
 
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Always off when traveling, I was taught this during my industrial roofing days:thumb:

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