Gas Locker BBQ Point

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  1. Craig Rogers

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    I've just put a BBQ point inside the gas locker, why you may ask? Well, it saves cutting another hole in the body and also saves another joint inside. It's all contained in the locker so if it leaks, it'll leak via the drop.

    In case anyone is thinking of doing the same, this is how I did it. I appreciate it won't match everyones requirements, but hopefully at least give an idea.

    First of all, this is what I needed for it to go ahead;

    1. Truma KV8 BBQ point (http://www.autogasshop.co.uk/truma-coupling-quick-acting-valve-kv8-239-p.asp)
    2. 8mm Low Pressure T-Piece (http://www.autogasshop.co.uk/low-pressure-8mm-tee-527-p.asp)
    3. 1m of Rubber coated 8mm copper gas pipe
    The idea is to "T" into the low pressure pipe in the Gas Locker but as you can see from the photos, there wasn't a lot there due to a small locker;

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    So I removed the regulator
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    I couldn't get the old olive off, so had to cut the end of the pipe off (and yes, I did scratch the wood above :Doh:)
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    Once cut off, I could remove it in a vice
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    I cut a small piece of 8mm, notice the rubber sleeve cut back to allow fitment
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    The 8mm pipe from new is slightly different so bear this in mind when ordering the right size. As you can see below, the standard pipe on the left has a thin coating making the pipe 8mm, however, the new pipe on the right is 8mm, but has a seperate thick rubber outer that needs to be trimmed back to fit connections;
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    Below, the pipe has been fitted to the regulator and T piece. Note, the ends were filed smooth before fitting
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    The regulator was now installed in it's new position after connecting the T Piece to the original remaining pipe.
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    I made some brackets out of Aluminium and fitted them to the KV8
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    I cut some 8mm pipe to length to connect the T Piece to the KV8 and as before I filed down the end including the inside edge

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    Using an inexpensive pipe bending spring (shown in photo), I shaped the pipe. Notice I removed the outer casing, this is because the pipe spring is 8mm and wouldn't fit otherwise
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    Refitted the outer casing, again, notice the ends trimmed to fit into the joints
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    The pipe was connected to the T Piece and in turn the KV8 which was then screwed to the wall of the gas locker;
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    Tightened all the joints opened the tank and sprayed some leak detector on the joints, just the low pressure side of the regulator was leaking, a little tighter on the spanner and all sealed
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    Put the outlet connector for the KV8 in to the feed pipe for BBQ
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    Connected it up and tested all ok. The gas feed pipe will be a bit longer than this when I use it as not a good idea to have the BBQ that close to the bottle!
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    Voila!

    So there you go, hopefully this can help somebody else looking to do a similar thing. :thumb:
     
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    A really neat job! :thumb:
     
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    another bonus is that if you cant find somewhere to top up your refillable bottle, or your stuck on site, you could add a standard cylinder and regulator to supply gas to your van. Just remember to turn off the refillable cylinder and if the BBQ point hasnt got a non return valve it will act as an inlet rather than an outlet
     
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    Good idea, hadn't thought of that. I don't think it has a non return in there.
     
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    I'm intrigued now. I'm going to rig up a calor bottle tonight and see if it works! :thumb:
     
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    It appears you can already use a 'slave' external (calor or foreign) cylinder with a Gaslow installation by connecting it to the filler point. See picture clipped from the current Gaslow catalogue, downloaded from their website.
     

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    My only concern is

    My only concern is that the actual cooking unit is very close to the bodywork of the motor home... I liked your step by step photo's but I would have concerns having it that close to the body work.

    Bob
     
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    Very interesting post about Gaslows solution. However i expect this would be far more expensive and would suit any type of cylinder as you use a regulator to suit the local bottles. With the gaslow type your tied to british butane or propane
     
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    agree, also my concern..

    I can see the advantages .. but too close for my comfort. I had an external gas point on the RV .. but only ever used as an input from another bottle while abroad..

    Also used a gas bbq, but used a separate bottle and well away from the van.
     
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    Connected it up and tested all ok. The gas feed pipe will be a bit longer than this when I use it as not a good idea to have the BBQ that close to the bottle!


    Voila!

    So there you go, hopefully this can help somebody else looking to do a similar thing.


    Read THE SMALL PRINT Bob
     
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    a picture says a thousand words Geo

    A picture says a thousand words.. while I note it says a longer hose, it would have been better in my personal view to have seen a longer gas pipe... it is interesting as I will admit, but if you are showing a how to do.. it is best to have the pictures showing the actual longer gas lead..

    I think Jim makes the point also that if using BBQ extension from a tank (regardless if it is a fixed LPG tank or a portable one) it does need to be well away from the motor home.

    I personally use a chobb unit I can place that anywhere I want.. cool to handle even when in use... even longer gas pipes can be a risk (trip) so it is personal choice. But I did like the pictures showing how to do it.

    Bob
     
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    Not sure, but I thought there was a max length for rubber gas pipe..? 3 mts rings a bell ..

    in any case, as Bob said it is a trip hazard.. pulling a BBQ over on bare legs doesn't bear thinking about ..

    not knocking the job.. very neat :thumb:
     
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    I seem to have read on RVOC

    I seem to have read about the length on RVOC.. may have been Duncan of Star Spangeled Spanner that mentioned it.. may be wrong... always happy to stand corrected.

    Like you Jim the job looks very professional. Just my view of risk with flexible pipes.. always wanted one of those Spanish double burner rings on legs... but the fear of it going over has stopped me buying one. I quite fancied a cadac as well, but store and other issues put me off. I do have a unleaded petrol Coleman I take with me if I need to use it.. but again it is all self contained no trailing pipes.

    Bob
     
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    I gave up on the Cadac, too much hassle setting up, cleaning and packing away .. it's now lying behind the garden shed .. probably rotting away ..

    Can't beat a proper charcoal barbie.. Bought a portable Webber.. used it for all sorts, whole roast chicken, joints of beef, heating pizza , pies etc ... :thumb:
     
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    Nice work Craig and great step by step guide :thumb:

    Only problem, for me is that my locker door is round the other side :Sad: I've opted for a spare bottle with my van as the dog kept knocking the BBQ over in the last one....then eating the contents :BigGrin:
     
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    now a webber is nice

    If I recall Si (Dodgey has one) .. now they are nice (Webber) .. we can do a full chicken in side the cobb.. plus with the frying pan, wok and other units we have we can do everything from bread to pancakes...and of course a full chicken.

    Bob
     
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    :BigGrin:That reminds me of when I was a young un. We had a spaniel and chickens, my dad used to give it a egg to carry home from the garden, then one day it dropped it and dad shouted it to eat it/lick/clean it up :Eek!: After that the dog used to drop the egg in the same place every day :BigGrin:
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    I would like to thank you for taking the pics so it has made it so much clearer for anyone else thinking of doing this great pictures very clear:thumb:
     
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    Thanks all. Yes I think 3 meters is the max you should use for an external connection.

    That'll take it far enough away from the body. As for a tripping hazard, I guess we'll just have to open our eyes. Funsters have gone health and safety mad.

    For me, the reason I wanted to use the MHs bottle is because I haven't got the room to carry another gas bottle unless it goes in the garage, then that's more dangerous than what I've done. It would have to be secure, if it leaked it could leak inside (garage is convertable) and the extra weight. Plus what's the point when there's a perfectly large refillable bottle?

    The only reason I didn't show the full length hose is that I've not yet got one, I must try harder next time :Laughing:. Either that or read the text first and don't just look at the pictures before critiquing......... :Wink:
     
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    I looked at the pictures you distracted me

    I looked at the pictures.. so it is all your fault:Rofl1::Rofl1: you distracted me.....


    One thing Craig.. Ezzie does not respect bits of hose of electric leads.. 88 kgs just goes where they want, often the shortest route, especial when someone calls 'Hellooo Ezzie':cry::cry:

    But heath and safety aside and not reading the words.. the photos looked good.

    Bob
     
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