Gas bottle upgrade Hymer

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  1. stephsol

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    Hi All,
    I'm planning to get two refillable bottles with a auto regulator/connector to fill the second bottle. I did see a good installation video on another thread, an 11kg and 6kg on a B544. But I have a B584 and want as much gas as possible, would anyone know the best combination for the 2001 model, B584 locker space.......and a fitted cost guideline.???
     
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    Most Hymers will easily take 2X 11KG cylinders. The reality is that unless you use an exceptional amount of gas (ski-ing in February in the Alps without hookup for example) most could cope easily with just one refillable cylinder. The idea is you use it as a fuel tank, i.e. don't have to wait till its empty to top up so really very little reason to run out.

    D.
     
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    Thanks D,
    Im planning on travelling for 12 months and may end up somewhere like Morocco, where I believe LPG is scarce. how long would you say an 11kg would last, assuming no hookup. This is my first van, sorry if this is a silly question (how long is a piece of string), Im preparing for a first trip to the Scotish highlands and Hebrides in Sept as a test run.
     
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    In our Hymer we have one 11 kg Gaslow, and one conventional 6 kg propane. We could get 2x 11 in but decided that the cost involved for the additional bottle wasn't worth it for us.

    We use the refillable bottle, and then if it runs out we know that the 6 kg is still there as a back up. We already had the 6kg bottle.

    We've not had to use the 6 yet as we have always been able to fill up the Gaslow before it runs out. It's comforting to know there is some back up though.

    Accepting your "how long is a piece of string" comment, and not having been Morrocan bound, I would have thought that you could get maybe 4 weeks out of an 11, using it for hot water and cooking and the fridge. I'm guess you'll not need the heating on, or cooking much in the oven but fridge might be working hard.

    IMHO our set up would be OK for 4 weeks non hook up.

    Recent 4 week UK trip on hook up we got through the 11 (although topped up before it ran out), but did a fair bit of cooking in the oven for roasts, using the gas ring for cooked breakfasts, grill for toast, hot water always on Eco setting 24/7 but turned up to High for 30 mins before showering etc. Fridge was mainly on hook up but had probably 5 days on gas.

    Interested in others views too!
     
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    Gas it or Gaslow your choice the first is cheaper bu IMO a Google bit of kit easy to fit.
     
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    We have 2 x 11kg gaslows in our hymer.

    We usually wait until the the first bottle to run out before we start thinking about filling up.

    On a recent 3 month trip to Greece the 1st bottle lasted us for 25 days and we filled up about 10 days later.
    After that fill the first bottle ran out again after 22 days so an 11kg usually lasts us for an average of the 2.
    We are never on hook up so the fridge is always on gas and use of the hob for cooking. Hot water was only used occasionally to wash clothes and when a beach shower wasn't available. Obviously bottles would last considerably less in autumn/winter when the heating is also used.

    We did a 3 month trip to Morocco a few years ago and 2 x 11kgs lasted fine but we also bought one of those cheap as chips Moroccan Campinggaz bottles with a burner and used it to cook outside most of the time to supplement the refillables.

    Pete
     
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    Yes I agree with the above between 21to24 days fridge cooker water.
    No questions are silly only when you run out and wished you had asked.
    Laurie.
     
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    Thanks everyone,
    Not sure 2 x 14kg will fit in my 2001 b584? it looks like 2 x 11kg will be the way to go, there must be plenty of companies that fit this arrangement, but Ive only found one in Carmarthen. Any ideas of what I should expect the quote to be ??? as I wont have any comparisons so far!
     
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    Re fitting, we had our Gaslow done at the Peterborouh show. Maybe if you can get to Malvern or similar it might be an easier way round? Just avoid looking at the new shiny stuff when you're there...

    We paid £380 fitted for 11Gaslow, external filler, full range of adaptors and manual change over between the Gaslow and conventional bottle.
     
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    2x11kg Gaslow in a 2001 Hymer B584 and the small type filler in the skirt panel between gas locker and front wheel arch.
     
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    We have 2 x 11 kg Gaslow bottles in our B630 (2003 model year). In summer, this will last for 6 - 8 weeks in summer for cooking, water heating and fridge ( no hook-up ).
    If finding a local supplier is difficult, it's not far from Brecon to Telford to see Dave Newell and he offers a Funster discount.
     
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    I have 2 x 14kg cylinders in my Hymer they are the same diameter as the 11 kg but 91mm higher, height without collar is 648mm.
    14kg lasts us 3 weeks in September in France, hot water for showers every day and a fews days with some heating when we are up in the mountains. Our last van with similar use 11 kg lasted 3 weeks, I think the Dometic 8505 fridge uses a lot more gas than the 7000 series in the last van.
     
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    Also I went for a regulator on each bottle so I know when one bottles empty and also save money on not buying an auto change valve.
     
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    Look at autogas 2000 website, or give them a call.
    They also do refillable cheaper than gaslow, but just as good.
     
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    Had that on my last van a good cheap solution and it gives you a spare reg if one packs up,unlikely as bottle top ones hardly ever fail.
    The auto changeover with secumotion is much more convenient in the new van, know when a bottle is empty as there is a green LED for the primary bottle and a red one for the secondary bottle mounted in the panel with the regulator heater switch inside the van.
     
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