Fulltiming in an RV on a Car Licence (1 Viewer)

vwalan

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hey john .lots lost the entitlement .i was told about it while at the goods mot station so kept mine. i told lots of people at the time but everybody said we wont need it. it cost 20 quid with the form. i already had hgv so didnt need a further medical. i still have all the info about it here .there is /was alot of fuss at the time posters in some camper shops . but only a few people took any notice. i got personaly involved in protests in london but it died a death. why do you think i keep on struggling with rights and try to fight authority. helmet runs for bikes etc. the last big one was very costly for dorset police camera partnership.
 

ginge61

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Considering there must now be a few RV's driving around in the UK, they must have some kind of recognised and legally binding licence in order to drive the damn things on the road.

Is it HGV class 1,2 or 3....or can this guy drive away on his car licence? Thats all he wants to know.

check the link i put in id say no he cant if over 7.5t
 

mikamada

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IMHO is it not time to moderate threads of this ilk?

This is a thread keeps reappearing and reappearing tending to repeat the same information, generally in a different format. IMHO I would suggest that this is could be dangerous as it could lead to misinterpretation of the relevant acts, decisions, directives and statutory instruments resulting in a reliance upon the views expressed in forum posts.

Also, existing case law regarding the sale of American Motor Homes in the United Kingdom would place persausive responsibility upon the buyer (see Bramhill and another v Edwards and another [2004] EWCA Civ 403).

There is no UK or European precedent Case Law upon the particular interpretation of the weight categories in driver entitlement. Until such time all statements, be they by the DVLA or other persons or organisations, should be considered as "opinion" and should be read with awareness of the legal competency and qualifications of those making the statements. This is why the DVLA etc state that it is "in their opinion". They do not make that statement because they have doubt or are unsure of their interpretation. They would not provide that opinion if they were not confident that their opinion is correct, although they have been known to be in error. They say those words because there is no case law to prove or disprove their contention.

Whilst I may have opinion upon the interpretation of the Law I am reluctant to express such as it may be misinterpreted and would, personally encourage, that no reliance should be placed upon opinions expressed in forums etc. as they are no substitute for sound legal advice.

I believe that there is considerable risk that opinions expressed in such a thread as this, regardless of the motive or good intentions of the person making those opinions, could be acted upon by some person to their detriment.

I suggest that, because of this and again in my humble opinion, threads of this type should be strongly moderated.

I am reluctant to contribute additional views or interpretation and would counsel any person, for whom the subject matter is of an important nature, to seek their own qualified legal advice.

For those who wish to conduct their own background reading the follow items of UK legislation may be of interest and a good starting point.

SI 1999/2864 The Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1999
See 3 Interpretation
See 6 Competencies to drive classes of vehicles
See Part III Supplementary Transitional Provisions
See Schedule 2 Part 1 Categories

Regulation 3 of SI 1999/2864 may require reading of SI 1986/1078 Road Vehicles (Construction and Use Regulations).

These regulations can be found at the Office of Public Information, however they tend to be published on the internet in the original form and may not include subsequent amendments.

These SI’s have not been amended and have been considered by Parliament to be in compliance subsequent European Legislation (Decisions and Directives) and wehere not so Council Decisions have been requested and granted.


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vwalan

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hi, as i have said from the begining check every thing dont take any notice of us. i put forward my in terpretation of the rules when ever i can. i dont make the rules i can only try toabide with them. it doesnt help when the dvla change the meanings such as private light goods ,plg became private large goods plg. only the plg staid the same they are both different categories. anyway my advise is and still is dont drive a rv over 7.5 unless you are prepared to stand in court and prove a point.anyone seeking relevent information may contact me as i have lots here. i also have contacts with barristers who specialise in this sort of affair. you must always remember this is only a forum ,we are not a court and can not set precidents. we can only express our views . all views are welcome . cheers alan.

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vwalan

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hi bullet guy. yes 12m is the maximum for all rigid vehicles .best not go into artic stuff as its mind blowing. its unfortunate we dont seem to have an authority to refer to. we only have agencies. its down to our style of law. in some counties the law says you must do this .ours says you cant do this. i forget the names of the types. have fun,i,m sure this will go on for ever ,we do need some rules rewriting. cheers alan.
 

scotjimland

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hi bullet guy. yes 12m is the maximum for all rigid vehicles .best not go into artic stuff as its mind blowing.


cheers alan.

Correct, however there are exceptions, coaches can be longer ( not talking about bendy buses) if they meet the turning circle regulations .. I did have a reference to this but can't find it at the moment ..

Stagecoach 15mt Fleet:
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vwalan

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hi jim , you sure you ment overall length or are you thinking of overhang. we could spend hours on overhang. have fun keep you busy looking it up. ha,ha, alan.

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vwalan

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nice one jim. i better climb in my box n shut the lid. learn something new every day. must admit i dont keep up with the coach rules ,never managed them. cheers keep up the good work. alan.
 

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