Fuel discounts for remote areas being considered

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    So logically, 'big city' prices should be £10 a gallon.
     
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    Just because people live in remote areas it does not mean they travel further most of the time.

    People commuting into the cities so some silly miles.
     
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    Fuel is twice the price in remote areas anyway.
     
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    Obviously some people living in country areas do so because they were born there and have lived all their lives there. Farming families, especially, spring to mind.

    However, there are many country areas populated by people who choose to live there because of the advantages (to them) of rural over urban life. The steep rise in house prices in the Peak District is a good example.

    As with any other tax relief, this (if it comes about) has to target those who need it and not subsidise people who can well afford higher prices.
     
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    Fuel Discounts

    Instead of discounted prices why can't we have a standard price for petrol diesel and LPG for the whole nation regardless of geography. This would mean the small independant rural petrol stations (Esp Scotland, and the extreme SW) could remain in business and remote villages would not have to drive 30 miles to get fuel
     
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    That idea would never work its far to sensible
     
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    Unfortunately, whilst seeming attractive, its the opposite. Same price all over sir? Certainly sir? Drop the discounts fellas, hike everything to the highest.

    Then why stop at fuel? Why not standardised prices on all consumer goods? It would save companies having to waste money on advertising and competing with each other by offering discounts. They could also just hike prices to a higher standard level.

    It's simply a fact of life that economies of scale and increased competition tend to keep prices lower in urban areas compared to rural areas.
     
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    Sadly you are right Graham, but why do we have to have the choice of either a free market or a controlled market. Both alone are bad but we could have part controlled and part free market.
    A controlled market on fuel would mean businesses would be better able to plan their operations and rural areas could once again host small businesses instead of them being dragged into already over populated urban areas.

    Norman
     
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    To an extent we've had a controlled market for business for the last 20 odd years since National Non-Domestic Rates (Business Rates) were introduced so I'm not sure that the addition of controls on fuel would help.

    Even if fuel prices were controlled would that make rural areas more attractive to businesses? They and their staff would still be faced with higher prices for food and other commodities (including having to use fuel to get to towns for clothes shopping for instance).

    I should have thought a better answer to the over-population of urban areas would be to say "sorry, no, you can't, it's full", which would mean that businesses would have to look to alternatives.
     
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    I think it would make rural areas more attractive to certain businesses - those mainly being the supply and logistics ones, which would be good for those areas! They would save in fuel costs running transport - and probably wages if Cornwall is anything to go by! Van drivers down here earn average of 14k per year - looks nice when you hear London drivers getting paid 3 times that!

    You do have to travel further for services - that is daily life. If you take cornwall that have the low wage, pitted against highest costs of living in the country plus you HAVE to drive everywhere - (we still have once a week buses down here!) That said, Tony Blair was the only MP that looked into that, and set a 2p drop in fuel price compared with other areas to compensate - not that it matters now though!

    You would have to remove congestion charging - not fair in charging city dwellers twice! At least it would save all the fine culture - you pay the costs of congestion in fuel, you can afford to do so due to better wages.
     
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    The oil producing countries set the crude price so no real competition there
     
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    That might work of all the travel is within the one rural area itself but would it work for long distance travellers?

    I should have thought that if fuel price differences were so important then companies sending vehicles long distances would research the cheapest places along routes (using websites like petrolprices.com) and instruct their drivers where to fill up if there were savings to be made. Perhaps that is not the case, though, as it is far from uncommon to see HGVs refuelling at (expensive) motorway filling stations.
     
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    From Glen Haggis, we get through several litres of fuel just to get to and from a pump! Bring on the discount!!
     
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    But there are also the Speculator, Torbay has at any one time three or four Super Tankers anchored up, full to the brim with Crude, just waiting for the prices to go up on shore.
     
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    Petrol stations are few and far between here; they are always more expensive than our nearest petrol selling supermarket which is around 20 miles away; and anyway I cannot get my RV under the canopy. Filling up my 100 gallon petrol tank with a penny off or even 10p, would not lessen the shock of a big fill that much :Eeek::Laughing:
     
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    Most H.G.V.'s fill up using one or other of the fuel companys' cards. They don't actually pay the pump price, it's a discounted fixed price.
    Adrian. (Movin' on)
     
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    Thanks Adrian.
     
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