France Or Germany

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  1. davejmobile

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    to travel down to Croatia in autotrail Dakota weight 4250 am I best going down through Germany or just head through france
     
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    2 problems in Germany 1) the Umwelt (environmental) Zones for which you need a badge to show emissions and 2) coming in this year I believe what amounts to tolls for ALL roads, not sure how that will work.
     
  3. davejmobile

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    Really starting to look like france best option
    the van is a euro 4
     
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    The Umwelt zones are like the London one, applies only to major cities.

    The Tolls were said on another thread today to apply to 7.5 tonnes, I think.
     
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    Germany introducing tolls in next year or two so if want to visit go that way. Can come back through Italy, toll free through Austria etc....
     
  6. davejmobile

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    can any one confirm if tolls are payable on 4250 motorhomes in Germany
     
  7. Weinsbergaman

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    No tolls are payable anywhere in Germany right now, so far as I know. We drove over 600 miles from Denmark with our 4500kg MH, no charge (y)

    Thanks Antony
     
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    thank you Antony have travelled a lot around France but not Germany
     
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    Hi davemobile.
    When we went to Greece this April, we went down through Luxembourg , Germany, Austria, and Croatia.
    We paid 18 Euros to drive through Austria and 7 Euros to drive through Slovenia.
    However, when we came back in June, I did not bother to buy a carnet for Austria or Slovenia and nobody stopped us. So give it a go !!
    I don't think you can wild camp in Croatia by the way, if that was your intention.
    Enjoy !!
    Mitch.
     
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    The tolls in question are proposed to start sometime in 2016. the cost will be 10 € for 10 days or 22 € for 2 months.
    Frankly we should start charging foreign vehicles to use our roads as well.
    Phil
     
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    We have just returned from a tour through Germany and Austria and then Northern Italy and France. You are far more likely today toll charges in France and Austria at present than Germany. We paid no tolls in Germany, refused to get a GoBox for Austria and went by A and B roads from Passau to Vienna and then down to Graz etc. Italy we paid to go on the motorways as the roads were so diabolical and France has the Peage on its motorways other than some bits for which you don't pay. Peage is Class 2 for motorhomes but we got caught for a class 3 for a very short stretch which was only €3.50 but much more expensive than class 2. Germany every time for me until they introduce toll charges.
     
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    Done Germany this year no Toll's or any talk of toll's,different story for France seems only one way to get about on the main tourist routes and that's toll
    roads.
    The saving in time for some one who has only a short vacation period far out weighs the cost Normandy 20c, Cannes 30c pretty much guaranteed in summer months.
    East or West sides of France pretty much all toll road now.The sun shines brightly in the south and vast majority want that along with cheap prices and the french know that.
    We may moan here in England as the only real toll road is the M6 (toll) seems expensive when you use it but a better choice than M6/M5 link when heading north or south.
    Think its only a matter of time before tolls our the norm' with the smart technology now available.
     
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    Germany every time for us.. Even when tolls are introduced it will still be our preferred route..
    Not willing to go in to detail for fear of offending but we find Germany streets ahead of france in just about every respect
     
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    I have a great affection for France as I can speak the language and love the food and the people but the place is always scruffy. Public loos are usually a disgrace and there is usually plenty of rubbish about.

    In terms of motor homing I have to agree that Germany wins due to superior roads, no tolls, great Stellplatzs and it also has great cakes and good beer and wine. Climate not usually as good as can be had in the south of France. I wish I could speak German and must make an effort to learn during the winter. Germany is usually extremely clean and tidy and actually I would describe it as well manicured! We have been helped a number of times by young germans stopping and offering to help with directions which is first class!

    I can't see that happening much over here!

    Lots of places yet to explore in Germany from my perspective!
     
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    Having just returned from four weeks travelling round Germany I'll second that!
     
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    Have to go with the German vote!!!!
     
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