For all the Fiat haters

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  1. Munchie

    Munchie Funster Life Member

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    The BBC have managed to get a Freedom of Information order over VOSA to release MOT failure figures by model. Interesting to note that the Fiat Ducato out performs both the Mercedes and Transit. Details are in a downloadable Excel spreadsheet:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8456116.stm
     
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    most of the fix it again tony vans didnt make it to the mot station :Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    fix it again tony
    f i a t :Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    fix it again TOMORROW :thumb:

    depends where you're from i suppose.
     
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    At 31% the peugeot boxer is fractionally better than the simial fiat, both way better than mercedes!

    Having once had a sprinter based motorhome, it was not exactly reliable!
     
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    Anyone worked out the age of the vehicles? Probably not too many Fiat vans over 10 years old, whereas Mercedes?:restmycase:
     
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    Ive got a sprinter and never had a problem yet,i fail to see how these figures that aren't even up to date and focus on heavy use,can determine the better van.Was the legendary judder taken into account,and when theyre talking about mot failures it could be for something trivial that doesn't warrant giving a vehicle a bad name,i'd sooner have a sprinter with a minor defect than a fiat with a judder problem:thumb:
     
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    this list was I believe cars, I may be wrong. Merc cars rust well, merc chassis motorhomes do not. so how can you compare.
     
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    From this and other forums it would appear that many Fiats spend so much time in dock getting fixed that they cannot clock up the kinds of mileage needed to bring on MOT problems.

    MOT information is of course an indication of how well a vehicle is maintained and prepared for MOT and NOT of its quality of manufacture.

    The OPs use of the word 'outperforms' demonstrates why such data should not be released to untrained journos looking for a story.
     
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    More motorhome miles are done on Fiats than anything else so I suppose they are going to spend more time in the garage than some. Forum posting motorhome owners really are a very tiny minority of Britain's motorhomers. Prior to 2005 I've had a couple of Fiat based vehicles, done in excess of 100k in them and I can't remember a problem, they just pulled all day and I did what I do with all my vehicles, ignore them, hardly lifting the bonnet:Blush:

    The OP term was correct. Outperformed others at MOT time is about right, and it would be a well trained journo that makes a story from that spreadsheet:BigGrin:
     
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    Just a point.......very few X2/50's have reached the MOT age. So any comments on their ability to pass the test are pure conjecture.
     
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    Goes for Fiats in general does it not?:Sad:
     
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    There was a CAR satisfaction survey in the paper the other day The Suzuki was top followed by the Honda Jazz, second from bottom was Mercedes, as I say it was cars, food for thought. Unfortunately as a Jazz owner I was at the time more interested in that than the Fiats.
     
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    Fiat v The Rest,
    Sorry find the whole argument is becoming quite sad, why all the debate?
    Everyone surely makes there own decisions and lives with them, from the way the discussions are going I don't feel that we are really giving anyone buying there first motorhome a reasoned opinion.
    Ok! some are for MB and are blinkered to anything else, and that seems to apply to other brand owners.
    My oldest Sprinter has covered 73000 miles and touch wood not a single problem apart from replacement discs but on the other hand another with 18000 miles is an absolute disaster.
    My Fiat based MH is so far perfect, but who knows the future, I have made my choice and will live with it but won't attempt to persuade others that it is the only way to go.
    Will anyone agree with me?
     
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    i'd certainly agree with that. There are so many reasons for buying a particular vehicle, so its down to your own preference. I have always bought BMW's (wonder why they dont make MH'S), but now i have changed from an M5 to a toyota hilux which i love, and the reason i bought my fiat MH was because i liked the layout.
     
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    Just as well they didn't have to reverse up onto the ramp.:driving2::Rofl1:
     
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    Cos the O.P. invited it and I'm bored.:BigGrin:
     
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    Buttons,
    Where did you buy that big wooden spoon?
    :Smile:
     
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    I agree. This has a nauseating aire of "Mines better than yours" about it
     
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    which models judder ???

    i keep hearing about this reverse problem , we have a 2.8 fiat ducato based bessacarr and no judder ever , is it a particular model problem ?????

    :Eeek:
     
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