'Focused' on Shutter Priority today.... thank goodness for cropping!

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  1. cliffandger

    cliffandger Funster Life Member

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    I ended up buying a Lumix TZ60. Practising like mad before our holiday in India next week - still got a long way to go.

    Should I be using the Shutter/Aperture priority or just using it on the 'P' setting until I get more competent?

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    Nice first pics

    See here for a good explanation http://www.digital-photo-secrets.co...better-aperture-priority-or-shutter-priority/ But essentially if the speed is important, such as stopping action [fast] or blurring waves, [slow] then choose shutter speed priority. If the depth of field is important to a particular shot, such as a landscape for plenty of depth, or a portrait with only a shallow plane of focus and a blurred background then choose aperture priority.

    But that said, program modes are great on modern cameras and plenty of us use program mode than care to admit it. :)
     
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    I would practice with everything plus altering the asa to crank up the speed when you need it in poor light. If you just run it on automatic you'll never learn what you can do. :)
     
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    Two pretty good shots there (y)

    The trouble with any of the automatic or semi automatic modes is you'll never get properly used to it as long as you're letting the camera decide anything. Bite the bullet, stick it on fully manual straight away and never change it.

    It might take you a few days longer to get the hang of it but once you do your results will be so much better. It won't take long before the four things - shutter, aperture, ISO and white balance become second nature and you can adjust them almost without thinking about it.
     
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    Stick it on auto, life's to short;):p
     
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    This was taken on manual with the aperture wide open in order to get the fastest speed as the Mutt doesn't sit still for more than a few picoseconds at a time. The result works I think because only the face and in particular the eyes are in focus. Pure luck I freely admit, I discarded dozens in the process of getting this one! But on fully automatic it would have been a slower speed and greater depth of field and possibly even with flash!

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    Thanks Jim, will have a read of the link. I've read the books, but it's like a foreign language to me, nothing sinks in, so I thought it best to concentrate on one thing at a time! I think I will probably use it on the 'P' mode while we're in India, although I have been practising the shutter speed priority as I've been told there are some brilliant photos to be taken while we are travelling on the roads every day!

    Hope you're all still enjoying Spain - love to Sian and Katy - look forward to seeing you all sometime soon! (y)
     
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    Some good free books on amazon kindle.
     
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    I know nothing about manual, but in my opinion unless you are a serious photographer there isn't enough time to faff about with settings if you just want a holiday snap of the moment, just my opinion from someone who just uses a windows phone for photos.(y):)
     
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    Modern Panasonic Lumix camera's have a setting labelled iA.
    It means "intelligent auto" and does an excellent job in the vast majority of situations. Unless you are into the technical side of
    photography its the best setting to use.
     
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    We have had a TZ60 for a year now, generally very pleased with it. I have tried all types of different settings and have found it hard to beat the results the Intelligent Auto gives, must admit it surprised us.

    A couple of tips, the mode selection wheel is very easy to knock need to check it every time you take the camera out of its case, we have ruined loads of photos due to this. By comparision our Lumix bridge camera never gets knocked to the wrong setting. Don't forget to wait for the GPS to log on, then if you view photo's in Google Picasa you get a small map at the side showing location.
    Another point Deet ruins the anti-slip coating, ours has nearly all peeled off.
     
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    Crikey Lenny - so glad you have told us that - I ordered a wholesale amount of 100% Deet to pack for the trip!
     
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    It's got a nice shiny finish underneath.:)
     
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    I've had one a couple of years and have been disappointed. Doesn't seem to matter what setting I have it on, they all come out too dark. I spend my life on Photoshop!! My partner bought a cheaper version than mine and gets better pics!
     
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    On Auto ours nearly always gives very good results, did a comparison on holiday last year took the same shot with the TZ62 & our FZ18 Bridge camera even blown up on screen we could not tell the difference.
    Most of the photos in my gallery taken in the last year were on the TZ60 (link in signature) they are all straight shots no Photoshoping.
     
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    You get a bit more flexibility with P mode if you're able to decide how/where the camera meters the light.

    Having been raised on a Zenit E SLR I know what I need to know about shutter and aperture, but on my DSLR I take most shots in P mode. However I always opt for centred single point spot metering and auto focus so I have more control over the light metering and over where it's focused.

    At the extreme end of shooting (for example a dragonfly in flight or a time exposure of the stars) I'll go over to manual. Likewise I'll shoot panoramas on manual so the exposure is consistent across all frames. With panoramas it's also important to switch off the auto white balance.
     
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    Got a photo tour of Edinburgh from offspring for my last birthday. The guy who runs it, James Christie, is a professional with decades of experience.

    His first rule is only use manual, otherwise you are putting yourself in the hands of a dubious algorithm. Start with a shutter speed of 500 and an aperture of 5.6, with ISO on 200 and white balance on automatic.

    Move the shutter speed and aperture up and down to see what happens. You will soon get a feel for what is the best option.

    Then practice, practice, practice.

    I am taking better photos now, though I am still pretty poor. I tend to take the shot twice. First on Program Auto and then on manual. It means I always get something adequate (program auto), but more and more I am getting something better with manual.

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    Ooo you must have been rich to have a Zenit E :) I started out with a Zenit B ! Basically the cheaper version without a built in light meter.
    Very heavy but solid camera's built like a Russian tank! Excellent for learning about photography. Had mine from the age of 15 - 25 when I replaced it with an Olympus OM2n.

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    It was my 18th birthday present in 1977, and I used it until a digital camera (the 0.5 Mpixel Kodak DC-120 'brick') came free with my first home PC in 1999, then I gradually moved over to digital. Twenty years of basic SLR photography stood me in good stead for all that followed.

    The Helios lenses from the old Zenit cameras still sell well, especially the 44-7 range.

    I've also been selling Olympus OM cameras on eBay in the run up to Christmas - best price so far was for an OM-4 body. An OM2n with 50mm lens went for £60+ the other day.
     
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    Somewhere I still have a Minolta SRT101, brought in 1972 cost about 4 weeks wages.:)
    Does that make me posh?:ROFLMAO:
     
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