Flashing (2 Viewers)

[Speve]

Complaints about lorrys overtaking are pretty much the same as complaining about someone who stays in the middle lane to me, if you want to overtake them , what's wrong with the outside lane

I understood if you were over 3500 kg you could not use the outside lane can anyone clarify that please?

 

[chaser]

I understood if you were over 3500 kg you could not use the outside lane can anyone clarify that please?

We are not over but don't think it applies to mhs anyway, don't take my word though

 

[Speve]

We are not over but don't think it applies to mhs anyway, don't take my word though

Thanks @chaser Iwill do a bit of research on it!

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[gus-lopez]

I understood if you were over 3500 kg you could not use the outside lane can anyone clarify that please?

No, 7,5 tonnes .

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Have you never got stuck behind a 90mph scaffold lorry using the outside lane ?

 

[Speve]

No, 7,5 tonnes .

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Have you never got stuck behind a 90mph scaffold lorry using the outside lane ?

Thanks@gus-lopez no as I try not to use the outside lane on motorways, to fast for me I'm only a plodder like to smell the roses as I pass by them.

 

[filopastry]

In France if someone flashes their lights at you it means they are telling you THEY have right of way

NOT to my knowledge

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[Tea Bag]

Hi Big bus man.
You forgot to add to the tipper list. "Overtaking on blind bends and double white lines etc....."
Tea Bag (One time, Limestone Cowboy! pre limiters! LOL)

 

[Enword]

Complaints about lorrys overtaking are pretty much the same as complaining about someone who stays in the middle lane to me, if you want to overtake them , what's wrong with the outside lane

I cant as I'm always towing. Think there should be a minimum speed limit on dual carriageway / motorways, I started to count the number of cars between Devon & Brands last week that were being overtaken by lorries got to 25 & stopped counting. they cause more hold ups than anything !

 

[PeteH]

When I saw this, I thought It was a thread to do with long dirty mac`s?. Just goes to show how easy it is to get it all wrong, especially when your Knocking on a bit!

Pete

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[jongood]

NOT to my knowledge

Its a very grey area. It did used to be the case in france that if someone flashed it meant they were not going to let you go.

But like the priorite a droite rule its now generally not the case.

I love France, but I do wish they would learn how to use roundabouts properly!

Jon

btw
I had one pull in the lefthand lane at some traffic lights and then turn right - in front of me without indicating. whooaa!!

 

[gus-lopez]

In France if someone flashes their lights at you it means they are telling you THEY have right of way

Still works mainly that way here, especially on a motorway. In town someone might flash to let a car turn across them but you don't see it much. With the trucks it is mainly the drivers who go abroad that know & use the flashing to let you in .

 

[grumps147]

I understood if you were over 3500 kg you could not use the outside lane can anyone clarify that please?

Guide to Motorways: Outside Lane Restrictions
The Offence
It is an offence to drive a vehicle in the outside lane of a motorway which is:

1. towing a trailer; or
2. a goods vehicle with a maximum laden weight exceeding 7.5 tonnes; or
3. a goods vehicle between 3.5 and 7.5 tonnes without a speedlimiter being fitted; or
4. a passenger vehicle which can carry 8 or more passengers with a maximum laden weight exceeding 7.5 tonnes; or
5. a passenger vehicle which can carry 8 or more passengers with a maximum laden weight between 3.5 and 7.5 tonnes without a speedlimiter being fitted. ( from... http://www.motordefenceteam.co.uk/offence-guide/motorways.htm

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[Big bus man]

I had one pull in the lefthand lane at some traffic lights and then turn right - in front of me without indicating. whooaa!!

What makes you think it's just France!!

 

[busby]

I have certainly noticed the difference, and experienced the same whether driving the MH, a coach, or an Artic.
There are fewer British drivers behind the wheel of commercial vehicles nowadays, and Eastern European drivers don't adopt the "unwritten rule" of flashing you in. Even some Traffic Police drivers flash you in.

The only time I have experienced the "courtesy flash" across the water, is when I have overtaken either a UK or Dutch registered truck.


Not those in very recently registered trucks, as they are legal up to 50 MPH on single carriageways, and 60 MPH, on dual carriageways and motorways now.

It is unlikely that fleet managers will have the speed limiters on older registered trucks tweeked, to comply with the higher speed limit................as that would do nothing for their eco policies, ie, fuel economy and reduced emissions, which appears to be selling point for some of the big retailers.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[busby]

Its been 60 mph for HGV s on motorways for years but by law limiters are set to 56 mph. The power of Europe i imagine. BUSBY.

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[busby]

Another common failing among non-lorry drivers is the inability to understand momentum.

If a lorry slows down on a hill while he waits for you to make your intentions clear, it may take many minutes and a lot of gearchanges to regain it.

But yes I do agree that ther are also some very poor lorry drivers out there - maybe we should pay them more??

Years ago yes but now with most artics 400 bhp plus picking up speed is not too difficult.. BUSBY.

 

[jongood]

Years ago yes but now with most artics 400 bhp plus picking up speed is not too difficult.. BUSBY.

If your empty maybe, but with a full load at 44tonnes its 9bhp/tonne.

Sprightly they aint.

 

[JockandRita]

Its been 60 mph for HGV s on motorways for years but by law limiters are set to 56 mph. The power of Europe i imagine. BUSBY.

Oh I know that, being Class 1 HGV & PSV qualified, and experienced. I just wasn't aware until recently, that although the speed limits had been raised on certain carraigways for HGVs, the EU Rules regarding speed limiters on newly registered vehicles from April 6th, remained as before.

Always willing to be educated/further informed though.

Jock.

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[Cavs]

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[ianandkath]

Complaints about lorrys overtaking are pretty much the same as complaining about someone who stays in the middle lane to me, if you want to overtake them , what's wrong with the outside lane

i am not allowed in the 3rd lane,so i can't overtake.
but most of the time i travel at 50mph, so dont overtake a lot

 

[bubble63]

Doesn't work when there are only two lanes

So why do lorries pull out from lane 1 when traffic is already almost alongside in lane 2 with the clear intention of overtaking and unable to move safely into lane 3 as they are already being overtaken by other vehicles?

Yep and Yep

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