First timer, bought sight unseen from ebay!

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  1. browne4573

    browne4573 Read Only Funster

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    I know I am ridiculously stupid, been looking for a while but live up in the north east of scotland so there are not many for sale round this way. Ended up hovering round ebay until I see one that's been relisted a few times then made a very low offer.

    So it arrived yesterday on the back of the transporter and overall I am moderately pleased.

    I have bought a mitsubishi 1983 l300 based pioneer coachbuilt motorhome. No immediate signs of damp inside. And most of what I have tried to use so far seems to be working. Even the water heater which I am most surprised about.

    The thing that is really stumping me is the electrics. There seems to be a consumer unit with a couple of mcb's feeding sockets. There are also a plethora of lights in the living area none of which I can figure out how to get working. There is a pair of battery leads with no battery in the wardrobe, however connecting a battery up to these does not make the lights work. These leads must be connected to the vehicle battery because when I accidentally touched them together there was a bit of a spark!

    If the leisure battery is directly connected to the vehicle battery then surely it would just create a bigger battery but would still run down when in use. The water pump works fine off of the vehicle battery and the carver heater is connected here as well. Would it be likely that due to the age there is no split charging.

    If any one has any info about this type of camper that they would like to share then I would really like to find out as much as I can, thanks.
     
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    Hi and greetings from another north east Scot. I must admit you are very brave buying on eBay sight unseen. I am glad you seem to have struck lucky and although I cannot help you with your electrics I am sure there will be a funster who can. I have received lots fo help.

    I know exactly what you mean about trying to buy a motorhome in this area, I am looking for a small A class and have nothing except a slightly overpriced one that I decided to ignore.

    Hope you have fun MH'ing and enjoy the besMH site on the web.

    Norman
     
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    Good morning.

    I don't know about striking it lucky. I think I may have just struck it not too unlucky!
    A lot of people talk about a habitation check, I am looking locally to see if there is anyone that could offer this. Don't want it all going up in flames! Do people normally put a smoke detector in their campers or would it be set off all the time if you are cooking.

    So far I have got the water system working, the gas hob seems to work fine. The heater looks a bit old and dangerous! The oven doesn't seem to work at this point and i need new cushions for the seating area and maybe a new carpet for the floor.

    I don't want to spend too much because it is an old old van but it has 12 months mot and according to the odometer has only done 48000 miles.

    It is old and a bit beaten up but it does seem to have a real character about it. Next thing will be trying to figure out the electrics for the back. I really want to have a split charge arrangement so I can put a leisure battery in and not worry about running down the main battery, I am sure there must be a switch somewhere that makes the lights work, unless they only work from the ehu. That is my next thing to try.
     
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    Hi and welcome to the forum. It is feasable that there is a charge relay stuck. A mortorhome of that age would have one. However it is more likely some cobbled together electris that someone has added. Internal lights would most likely be a switch or fuse some pictures of the various switch panels would help. It is unlikely the lights are 240V however if it has a hookup there will be a charger switch that could be the problem. Gas appliences that have not been used for a while will have to be bled. A cheapo gas detector (under £10 from ebay) will help you see if gas is getting through. Thermocouple may need replacing to keep it alight, don't forget to hold the knob in for a while after lighting. Any battery for ignition will need replacing and you should check for leaking gas before lighting with a taper.
    A vehicle of that age will have or have had water ingress problems so a lot of seals (back corners, windows and roof) will need checking.
    Good luck and enjoy.
     
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    Hi, a Mitsubishi 1983 L300 based pioneer,is it the overcab bed coach built? I bought one of these in brand new in about 1983 from London Motor Caravans the Reg. was A222 SYM not the same one is it? :BigGrin: Cost around £10,000 loved it, did over 70,000 miles without any trouble at all. The engine has counterbalance shafts running in the block and is so smooth, on a run down to Spain we got over 35mpg, and that's from a coach built. Even still got the brochure somewhere.

    Ian
     
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    Yeah that's the one, coachbuilt 4 berth, overcab bed and the dining area makes into another double. It seems really quite cute and has plenty of equipment. I would love to have a look at your brochure.

    Can you remember how you make the lights work in the living area, I figure there must be a switch somewhere, I seem to have space for a leisure battery but can't see any charger or split charge arrangement. The leisure battery leads are connected to the main battery as they have voltage there even with a battery disconnected.

    mine is c***cat so not the same one!
     
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    Hi check to see if there is a master switch as we have one at our back door so you can turn off lights as leaving mh yours might have something like that.

    Good luck
     
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    there is only a side door, no switch that I can see. I am stumped!
     
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    its quite possible that you have blown any fuses that are fitted, check these first if you can find them
     
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    Sorry mate I can't remember if their was a leisure battery, and as for light switches?? We sold it in 1988. I don't suppose the ceiling lights have integral switches do they?

    I do remember that the water heater is at the back and is plumbed into the engine coolant, so as you drive it heats the water, after a couple of hours driving its nearly boiling! The 230v electrics I think were pretty basic, and did no more than feed a couple of sockets and maybe the fridge. I will try and dig out the brochure.

    Ian
     
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    Sorry I can't help but silly question I'm sure....but have you tried contacting the seller to ask them? Good luck :Smile:
     
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    The seller was selling it on behalf of their deceased father in law so has no more idea than me!

    The ceiling lights all have integral switches but they don't come on with just the integral switches.

    not blown any fuses as far as I can tell, the leads in the back would appear to be directly connected to the main vehicle battery. Maybe their just isn't any leisure battery split charge facility just room to fit an additional battery. I am not sure that driving the vehicle heats the water, I think it is a carver 2 which only works on gas.

    it's all a bit complicated to try and figure out!
     
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    Hi there
    My mate's just bought an older type of van and he has to switch the lights-on via a switch on the zig unit then individually.
    You'll probably need a leisure battery connected, though his did work from the vehicle battery.
    Sorry i can't be more help


    cheers...nige
     
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    That might be the answer, excuse me being a bit stupid, but what's a zig? What does it look like and where would I find it?

    I have a power pack I connected up to the leads in the accomodation but the lights still didn't work.

    I think there must be some kind of distribution switches which affect where the 12v goes but I can't find it, that must be the zig?
     
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    I was going to post a link to one on ebay but there are so many different ones best you have a look yourself, just search zig unit.
    It's a distribution panel in many shapes and sizes

    cheers...nige
     
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    How about a few photos? - I don't know about anyone else but I'm working in the dark here (pun fully intended :Wink: 'cos I couldn't find the light switches ... see?)
     
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    This is pics of where the leisure battery I think goes, plus the consumer unit and the battery in it's location behind the drivers seat.
     

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    box on the right looks like 240 volt supply inlet and distribution rcd and mains isolation box
     
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    Yeah, that's what I thought. I haven't tried plugging in mains yet, I want to check where all the wiring goes first as some of it looks like it needs checking over. I am totally flumoxed by the 12v side though. I am guessing that there must be a switch somewhere which is a master for all of the lights. There are loads of lights through the accomodation including eyeball spots in the ceiling and a few fluorescents. And a 230v fitting which I think has been added afterwards.
     
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    Here's the brochure browne. one thing I do remember was it drove beautifully, smooth, powerful brakes and easy gear change. The first van I drove that didn't drive like a van, more like a car.

    Ian
     

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