Fire at storage

Discussion in 'Tech/Mech General' started by Ralph-n-Bev, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. Ralph-n-Bev

    Ralph-n-Bev Funster

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Messages:
    5,889
    Likes Received:
    8,606
    Location:
    Wrenthorpe, Wakefield.
    Ralph has a lock up for his work plant and equipment. It's situated at a caravan storage place near Wrenthorpe , where we live.
    We don't store our Motorhome there , we don't feel it's as secure as it should be.
    Anyways , the other day he called up there to get a mini digger , for a job he was doing.
    Early that morning a fire had started in a caravan and quickly , and completely burnt out 5 others. It melted 4 others and the whole rear of a Motorhome. The high winds hadn't helped the matter.
    It turns out after investigation they think it was wiring in the first one to go up. Probably by a mouse chewing wires , or electrical fault. These were all new or nearly new. Not old cronky things.
    One of them a 15 k caravan wasn't insured. But regularly taken out on trips by its owners. :Eeek:
    I thought they'd have to be insured , like cars. I know we always had our caravans in the past , insured and serviced.
    It makes you think , when in storage , they are parked up quite close to each other. :Eek!:
     
    • Like Like x 1
  2. irnbru

    irnbru Funster Life Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2013
    Messages:
    5,315
    Likes Received:
    9,614
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Sounds like penny wise pounds foolish, though I really do feel for them that's not insured.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. DavidG58

    DavidG58 Funster

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2013
    Messages:
    6,274
    Likes Received:
    12,105
    Location:
    Bolsover, Derbyshire
    This is a really tough one, I too feel for their loss, but they have probably made the decision to save the cost of the insurance

    I remember years ago a group of pensioners in Towyn, Wales, 'bleating' that they had no insurance when the sea came over the wall. It was completely their choice to save the cost of insurance, why should we then reimburse them, unless there is a genuine counter claim

    sorry to take a tough stand, but my parents brought me up to always be covered, we have paid thousands more than we have claimed, (so far), but sleep a little more comfortably
     
    • Like Like x 4
  4. Ralph-n-Bev

    Ralph-n-Bev Funster

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Messages:
    5,889
    Likes Received:
    8,606
    Location:
    Wrenthorpe, Wakefield.
    If they were to be involved in an accident or flip over in a strong wind, would they be insured under the car insurance . I wouldn't have thought so.
    I don't have sympathy for people who don't insure houses , cars , caravans , or any thing of value. Their choice.
    But Ralph says the only one that wasn't insured is going to try and claim against the caravan that the fire started in ? Don't know how that will pan out.
    So they will probably get bailed out. Which annoys me , just like all these affected by floods , that aren't insured. Getting bailed out.
    I don't mean them that have been flooded before and can't get insurance. That must be hard.
    I mean those that just don't bother to insure in the first place.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. pappajohn

    pappajohn Funster Life Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2007
    Messages:
    29,443
    Likes Received:
    16,872
    Location:
    YO11 2BD
    no legal requirement for insurance on caravans and trailers...and that includes £50000 5th wheelers.

    While the caravan is on tow its covered for 3rd party claims but not your own claim.
    When static theres no cover unless insured seperately or maybe still attached for 3rd party purposes..
     
  6. pappajohn

    pappajohn Funster Life Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2007
    Messages:
    29,443
    Likes Received:
    16,872
    Location:
    YO11 2BD
    thats how it works.....

    Just as in a car crash if you get rear ended...you dont claim off the car in front, you claim off the one that hit you.....and if pushed forwards into the car in front that owner will claim from you.

    Their problem will be, if they werent the last to burn the next in line will claim from them.
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2014
  7. Ralph-n-Bev

    Ralph-n-Bev Funster

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Messages:
    5,889
    Likes Received:
    8,606
    Location:
    Wrenthorpe, Wakefield.
    How will that work then pappa , if there not insured ?
     
  8. pappajohn

    pappajohn Funster Life Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2007
    Messages:
    29,443
    Likes Received:
    16,872
    Location:
    YO11 2BD
    their insurers will claim from the individual.....they may need a new van when they have to sell their house to cover the insurance bill.

    Insurers are heartless and will chase the claim to any end
     
  9. Terry

    Terry Funster

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2007
    Messages:
    10,722
    Likes Received:
    6,224
    Location:
    South yorks
    All the van owners (or there insurers ) will claim off the first van to go up insurance - they may well pay up for there customers but they will all claim off the first one eventually :Wink:Even the one who is not insured will get a ambulance chasing co to make a claim
    terry
     
  10. Ralph-n-Bev

    Ralph-n-Bev Funster

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Messages:
    5,889
    Likes Received:
    8,606
    Location:
    Wrenthorpe, Wakefield.
    Gosh, bet there's a few stressed people at the moment then. I've often thought vans and caravans were parked too close to each other. But with the strong winds we've had the ones in the row In front ( a road width away ) weren't burnt but melted with the heat. What a nightmare.
     
Loading...

Share This Page