FINED for parking in Paderne

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  1. glastry

    glastry Funster

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    Thats what its looking like at the moment.On 24/february/2015,
    we parked in the carpark at the Fonte in Paderne,(as in parked in the marked out parking space ,between the white lines). We had a bicycle ride up towards Alte,and when we came back the police were there,they took our details and a photograph, ( at the time we thought this was in case we stayed on or came back later )and explained that we could not stay there overnight,the conversation was pleasant,and they chatted about the large numbers of vans in the Algarve this year- they was with no indication that we had done anything wrong,and we moved on.(they had good english)
    We did not get home until june,and found our first letter from
    Albuferia council!!
    252 EUROS please for "parking".
    Having asked many people for help,today we have been told by a
    portuguese solicitor that if we cannot produce "reliable witnesses"
    that it may be best to just pay.
    I am guessing that at best a witness to say we moved on would
    be helpful,but in reality who is going to remember an old hymer
    in Paderne 10 months ago???
    What happens if i refuse to pay?
    and if it is the case that the fine is for parking a motorhome
    in a carpark-maybe we should just pay up.
    Any assistance appreciated.
    thanks.
    we have no Portuguese and still have not seen an english
    translation of the letters.google and the like do not seem to produce a meaningful translation of Portuguese legal documents.
     
  2. irnbru

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    Oh that's awful, and especially at this time of year. Hopefully someone will be able to help you, maybe another funster in the area could take a photo of any signage in car park that might help you. Fingers crossed you manage to get it sorted.
     
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    If they took photos of your van being legally parked, have they sent you a copy?
    Apply for a photo of you being illegally parked and why wasn't you given a ticket or told to move on?


    Or, am I not reading it right?
     
  4. Armytwowheels

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    Cannot help at all with whether you should pay or not, sorry.

    We parked there for 2 nights in April of this year, along with a car park full of motorhomes and never saw a policeman, let alone a fine. We did tons of washing and had it drapped all over the place, as did all the other vans.

    It does seem a large fine for just parking. Is there a phone number you could ring to discuss. I bet someone in the office will speak English.
     
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  5. matamoros

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    No surprise that they are cracking down then is it!!:xangry:
     
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    @JJ posted something about this in a recent thread.
     
  7. Armytwowheels

    Armytwowheels Funster Life Member

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    It's a wash house, for doing washing!! There are washing lines and everything. Every van there was there to do laundry.

    IT is listed as a public laundry.
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  8. Munchie

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    I always thought the area to the right as you drove in was an aire!
    We walked past many times while at Pedro's and always lots of m/homes in there!
     
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    I'm guessing that your MH fitted between the marked lines but I suspect it overhung at one or both ends. If this was the case and they have a photograph then I fear you will just have to pay up. Especially if you have any plans to return to Portugal. :xsad: On the positive side the exchange rate is 1.38 today although it would have been best to pay it in July when is was 1.43. :xgrin:
     
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    Armytwowheels Funster Life Member

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    I thought it was an aire too. I know that some vans were parked outside the working barn/farm to the left (as you look at the site from the road) and there are no marked out spaces there.
     
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    I would agree but there was a Dutch double axle there next to the toilets for ages!
     
  12. matamoros

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    Aaaah......didn't say that before.
     
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  13. glastry

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    so you wanna see the picture? -- IMG_20151211_0003.jpg
     
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    This kind of incident does not exactly encourage tourists to visit Portugal !!!! It beats me how some authorities can be so shortsighted; don't they want our money, or what ? Toby Trux.
     
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    NO -the marked out parking is where we were parked.
    see the police photograph!!
     
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  16. Armytwowheels

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    Yes and I wouldn't be surprised if this is why there has possibly been complaints, as I could see the barn owner was struggling to get his farm vehicles through the doors. We did make a point of buying oranges from the front of the farm, not sure if this was the same business or not.
     
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    Yep, you parked in the same bit that we did. I am disappointed and surprised that this has happened to you as this is certainly somewhere we would have re-visited next spring. I still think a phone call may be worth it, you never know. From that photo I cannot see why they would think you were illegally parked, unless it's the shoes outside the van, but that is really pushing a point if it is. The time on the photo is not proof that you stayed there just for day or all night. I would like to know their reasoning behind it, there certainly is not any 'No Motorhome' parking signs there.
     
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    copy attached IMG_20151211_0003.jpg
     
  20. Badknee

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    €252 is a mighty big fine for parking isn't it? Looking at the photo your MoHo is parked exactly like I park so were not sticking out into the roadway or over another parking space.
     
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