Fiat to Drop 3.0 Litre Engine? (1 Viewer)

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It looks as if Fiat may be about to discontinue the 3.0 litre engine in favour of a 2.3 litre unit with the same power output. The Fiat website still shows a 3.0 engine but it is described as Euro 5+ but the new Euro 6 engine may not come in this size.

If true it reflects what a number of other manufacturers are doing - making smaller more efficient engines with the same power output as their larger predecessors. Ford were one of the first taking this route I think.
 

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It wouldn't surprise me if all diesel engines were dropped from PVC's & 3.5t motorhomes in the not too distant future & replaced with Ford type ecoboost petrol engines.

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2.3s are recycled Hair Dryer Motors:LOL:
Ive got a 2.8Ltr in the Euro, same as grandkids go cart, he's nearly 3 and believes owt I tell him, and he moves 2.8inches per pedal stroke :D
and 6.8Ltr V10 in the mans Motor (y)
 
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TE="Techno, post: 1839564, member: 12905"]Power not Torque
I would not buy a 2.3[/QUOTE]
It is quoted as 400nm, same as the 3 litre

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Displacement: 2999 cm3
Power: 177 HP
Max. Torque: 400 Nm at 1400 rpm
Top speed: 102 – 106 MPH (165-171 km/h)*
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CO2 emissions: 203-236 g/km*

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Power: 148 HP
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Top speed: 98 – 101 MPH (152-162 km/h)*
NEDC consumption: 39.8 – 45.6 MPG(6.2-7.1 l/100 km*
CO2 emissions: 164-186 g/km*

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Just so we don't go down a rabbit hole I am referring to the Euro 6 engines. These are not shown on the Fiat website yet. I have read production of these engines will start in June this year and deliveries of vehicles with the new engines will start in September.

The source of the rumour is a MH converter who is offering a 2.3 litre 177ps engine but price is still TBC at the moment. There is no longer a 3.0 litre option. It seems Fiat themselves are a bit unsure and things are still a bit up in the air.
 
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180 MultiJet Power Euro 5+


Displacement: 2999 cm3
Power: 177 HP
Max. Torque: 400 Nm at 1400 rpm
Top speed: 102 – 106 MPH (165-171 km/h)*
NEDC consumption: 31.7 – 36.7 MPG(7.7-8.9 l/100 km)*
CO2 emissions: 203-236 g/km*

*depending on model and version

150 MultiJet II Euro 5+


Displacement: 2287 cm3
Power: 148 HP
Max. torque: 350 Nm at 1500 rpm
Top speed: 98 – 101 MPH (152-162 km/h)*
NEDC consumption: 39.8 – 45.6 MPG(6.2-7.1 l/100 km*
CO2 emissions: 164-186 g/km*

*depending on model and version

& as we all know it's all going to be about emissions . . . :)
 
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Sort of related ;).....

Just bought a new car, asked the nice man what diesels they do .....
'Lexus don't do diesels ' he replied
'They don't think they can take diesels any further '

So my new car sports an Atkinsons cycle Petrol engine

Not had petrol car for years:) 20 to be precise

Is diesel on the way out?:whistle:

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Sort of related ;).....

Just bought a new car, asked the nice man what diesels they do .....
'Lexus don't do diesels ' he replied
'They don't think they can take diesels any further '

So my new car sports an Atkinsons cycle Petrol engine

Not had petrol car for years:) 20 to be precise

Is diesel on the way out?:whistle:

Ever increasingly strict E.U. emission controls are making it all but impossible for diesel engines to comply, E.G.R.V.'s & D.P.F.'s / C.D.P.F.'s already strangle the ability to perform properly & yet the modern diesel is cleaner than it's petrol equivalent in most cases.
 

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Just so we don't go down a rabbit hole I am referring to the Euro 6 engines. These are not shown on the Fiat website yet. I have read production of these engines will start in June this year and deliveries of vehicles with the new engines will start in September.

The source of the rumour is a MH converter who is offering a 2.3 litre 177ps engine but price is still TBC at the moment. There is no longer a 3.0 litre option. It seems Fiat themselves are a bit unsure and things are still a bit up in the air.

Just stick a Ford 2.3 ecoboost in them, more power, more torque, more m.p.g. & similar / less NOx emissions & less P.M. - job done :)
 

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I thought they had already dropped it, Hymer price lists show the 2.3Lt 180PS as the biggest option.

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I thought they had already dropped it, Hymer price lists show the 2.3Lt 180PS as the biggest option.
That would make sense if it is for a new vehicle to be delivered towards the end of this year. Does the Hymer site give a price?
 
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[QUOT="Lenny HB, post: 1839642, member: 658"]I thought they had already dropped it, Hymer price lists show the 2.3Lt 180PS as the biggest option.[/QUOTE]
That is the option I have been offered on a new van, no chance of a 3 litre

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That would make sense if it is for a new vehicle to be delivered towards the end of this year. Does the Hymer site give a price?
Listed as an option on the new B Class Dynamic don't think consumers will see any prices until August. Dealers must have them as they are offering Dynamics for August delivery.
 

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Am a firm believer in a big old unstressed lump plodding along at a leisurely pace. Gardner had it right with the finest diesel engine in the world. The more power you try to get from a small engine, the more chance you have of something going wrong. Diesel engines were never designed to rev hard like the petrol engine. There is no substitute for cubic inches and certainly in this case, big is best ;).
 

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Yup I'm glad I got the 3liter engine with my Rapido, anyhow we all know that is techno says it's the best then it's simply the best(y)

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Am a firm believer in a big old unstressed lump plodding along at a leisurely pace.
Absolutely agree .... how about 27 litres v12 chain drive?

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Babs land speed record car all to get 171 mph in 1927.

For anyone interested Babs is due to run on Pendine Sands tomorrow (Thur 28th)
 

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Am a firm believer in a big old unstressed lump plodding along at a leisurely pace. Gardner had it right with the finest diesel engine in the world. The more power you try to get from a small engine, the more chance you have of something going wrong. Diesel engines were never designed to rev hard like the petrol engine. There is no substitute for cubic inches and certainly in this case, big is best ;).
Not sure if this was a self reference, a reference to the engine or both.......... ;)


Quite agree - ain't no substitute for cubic inches(y)

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