Fiat to Drop 3.0 Litre Engine?

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  1. John Laidler

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    It looks as if Fiat may be about to discontinue the 3.0 litre engine in favour of a 2.3 litre unit with the same power output. The Fiat website still shows a 3.0 engine but it is described as Euro 5+ but the new Euro 6 engine may not come in this size.

    If true it reflects what a number of other manufacturers are doing - making smaller more efficient engines with the same power output as their larger predecessors. Ford were one of the first taking this route I think.
     
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    Power not Torque
    I would not buy a 2.3
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me if all diesel engines were dropped from PVC's & 3.5t motorhomes in the not too distant future & replaced with Ford type ecoboost petrol engines.
     
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    The 2.2 diesel in my Mondeo delivers 505nm & 230 bhp ( remapped ) :)
     
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    2.3s are recycled Hair Dryer Motors:LOL:
    Ive got a 2.8Ltr in the Euro, same as grandkids go cart, he's nearly 3 and believes owt I tell him, and he moves 2.8inches per pedal stroke :D
    and 6.8Ltr V10 in the mans Motor (y)
     
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    TE="Techno, post: 1839564, member: 12905"]Power not Torque
    I would not buy a 2.3[/QUOTE]
    It is quoted as 400nm, same as the 3 litre
     
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    Mine is 400nm at 1700rpm :LOL: or a fair chunk bites there
     
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    180 MultiJet Power Euro 5+


    Displacement: 2999 cm3
    Power: 177 HP
    Max. Torque: 400 Nm at 1400 rpm
    Top speed: 102 – 106 MPH (165-171 km/h)*
    NEDC consumption: 31.7 – 36.7 MPG(7.7-8.9 l/100 km)*
    CO2 emissions: 203-236 g/km*

    *depending on model and version

    150 MultiJet II Euro 5+


    Displacement: 2287 cm3
    Power: 148 HP
    Max. torque: 350 Nm at 1500 rpm
    Top speed: 98 – 101 MPH (152-162 km/h)*
    NEDC consumption: 39.8 – 45.6 MPG(6.2-7.1 l/100 km*
    CO2 emissions: 164-186 g/km*

    *depending on model and version
     
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    Just so we don't go down a rabbit hole I am referring to the Euro 6 engines. These are not shown on the Fiat website yet. I have read production of these engines will start in June this year and deliveries of vehicles with the new engines will start in September.

    The source of the rumour is a MH converter who is offering a 2.3 litre 177ps engine but price is still TBC at the moment. There is no longer a 3.0 litre option. It seems Fiat themselves are a bit unsure and things are still a bit up in the air.
     
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    & as we all know it's all going to be about emissions . . . :)
     
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    Sort of related ;).....

    Just bought a new car, asked the nice man what diesels they do .....
    'Lexus don't do diesels ' he replied
    'They don't think they can take diesels any further '

    So my new car sports an Atkinsons cycle Petrol engine

    Not had petrol car for years:) 20 to be precise

    Is diesel on the way out?:whistle:
     
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    Ever increasingly strict E.U. emission controls are making it all but impossible for diesel engines to comply, E.G.R.V.'s & D.P.F.'s / C.D.P.F.'s already strangle the ability to perform properly & yet the modern diesel is cleaner than it's petrol equivalent in most cases.
     
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    Just stick a Ford 2.3 ecoboost in them, more power, more torque, more m.p.g. & similar / less NOx emissions & less P.M. - job done :)
     
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    I thought they had already dropped it, Hymer price lists show the 2.3Lt 180PS as the biggest option.
     
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    Only time will tell if it's strong enough for longevity. I don't envy all the future ECU errors and garage bills :LOL:
     
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    That would make sense if it is for a new vehicle to be delivered towards the end of this year. Does the Hymer site give a price?
     
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    [QUOT="Lenny HB, post: 1839642, member: 658"]I thought they had already dropped it, Hymer price lists show the 2.3Lt 180PS as the biggest option.[/QUOTE]
    That is the option I have been offered on a new van, no chance of a 3 litre
     
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    Listed as an option on the new B Class Dynamic don't think consumers will see any prices until August. Dealers must have them as they are offering Dynamics for August delivery.
     
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    I blame the E U yet more bollox from Brussels :whistle::whistle:
     
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