fiat euro 5 engines

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  1. slimbob

    slimbob Read Only Funster

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    iam getting a new camper with the euro 5 engine but no one has give me a good reason for the price of the engines .
    as std its a 2.3 @ 130bhp
    but an upgrade 2.3 @ 150 bhp is a whooping £ 2100
    so what do thay do to get that price .
    surly its not just a remap .
    as you can buy an aftermarket chip for around £300.
    i would like the 150 engine but at £2100 .
    or do thay put a bigger turbo and upgrade the clutch.
    and before you all jump on me about the difference between chip and remap yes i know thay are not the same .
    does anyone know i look forward to the answers
     
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    We have the Euro 5 on our Autoroller 707, don't feel the need to increase anything yet. It tows our 2 motorbikes on the trailer and pulls really well. The only reason we may consider remapping would be to improve mpg. We chipped our previous van but it was only a 2.0 HDI and really needed the extra power.
     
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    I think it is a little more than a remap. 130 hp is a simple turbo. 150 hp is a variable vane jobbie.

    Whether it is worth the thick end of £100/ hp is another matter.:Eeek::Eeek:
     
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    Mine is the old 120bhp and it shames some saxo/corsa go boys ha ha ha
     
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    mike is correct. the 150 is a different setup useing a vary vane turbo.
    suposeadly more efficent.
    i drove a 130 and 150 in a pannel van at fiat demo. completly different feel to power band. i wanted the 150 but was not available at my change in early 2012[no chasis with 150 were in uk at that time]

    as a comparason i had a euro 4 130 [2009] was sick of changing gear befor i had done a couple of long journeys. and had it remaped. best monney spent it transformed the drive. i thought the 130 euro 5 was going to have the same problem. but have now done around 6500 miles, it apears much more developed smother better torq delivery less noise and is capable of less tireing long journeys. mpg is better 2500miles recently mixed traveling inc french mountains gave just over 32mpg average
    i am happy that the 130 suits and dont need feel the need to chip/remap

    hope this helps

    glyn
     
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    Hi

    I know it is a lot of money, but my advice is more is better. We upgraded our Kontiki to the 180 bhp vice the 150. Same on the last van.

    I am clueless mechanically, other than putting washer fluid in but in my younger days, I bought a Compass motorhome with the 2.2 Peugeot in it. It was a stock van and it was all they had. When I sold it, the chap who bought it had test driven the 2.0, and he said it was definitely a lot better. I know these are the older X2/44 engines but the same theories probably apply.

    We like a relaxed drive and so as an example, bombing on from Manchester to Leeds up the 4 late stretch, she sits in 6th gear, no bother.

    Russell
     
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    Our euro v 130hp 2.3 is fine on our 4.25 ton van. We get an average of 29mpg. If towing a car I think the upgrade would be worthwhile, if your van is greater than 4.5 ton I think an upgrade would be wise, if you are 3.5 ton, no trailer then 130 hp is fine.
    Ian
     
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    Have a 2013 Mohawk with the 150 upgrade previous van was a 2.3 130hp although lighter at 3500 (AT Tracker) the 150 is a totally different and much more pleasurable driving experience. Power delivery is much smoother no need for so much gear changing on gradients, much improved acceleration mpg is 24/25 but expect this to improve as engine loosens up.

    The AT upgrade is a lot less than 2k just over 1k off top of my head on tour at no so don' have exact figures to hand.

    Should I change van in a few years I'd defo want the 150 :thumb:
     
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