Fiat Ducato gearbox problems

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  1. keith c parker

    keith c parker Read Only Funster

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    Hi, I have a Fiat Ducato 1.9 turbo diesel T reg, 1999. I have a problem with the gearbox going from first to second, it grinds but goes in. From third to fifth and reverse there is no problem. We have asked the fiat dealer and other gearbox repair companies. they all say the same. This year of motorhome they can not get the parts to repair the problem.

    Does anyone have any idea where I could get this gearbox repaired or get a re conditioned one. I have been told it is an ML gearbox if that is any help.
    Thank you very much.
     
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    Welcome to the forum

    Sorry cannot help but I'm sure there will be someone along soon with an answer, there is a wealth of knowledge on here and rarely does a question go unanswered.
     
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    Try this. Type EPER into your Google Search. That will open Fiats full parts inventory. Choose your model, then you may be asked to enter your vin number. Go to gearbox. All your part numbers are there. As far as I'm aware at this time, Fiat still supply everything for your gearbox. (y)
     
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    Hi & welcome

    Is your problem heat related ? my 2.5 hates shifting when cold & prefers to be warmed up & if I do have to move it straight off from cold I find it ridiculously hard to change gear until its warm.
    I also wondering if any previous owners have found this & forced gear changes on your box.
     
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    This company supply reconditioned gearboxes.

    http://www.stockportgearboxcentre.com/ They have a good reputation, and will advise over the phone. (y)

    However, it could be that you have a worn linkage problem.
     
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    Had a 2004 Ducato 2.8JTDI with that problem.

    2nd gear syncro was shot, but being an ex army driver trained with crash gearboxes, I just used the double de clutch method to change up and down using 2nd gear.

    Much cheaper than a new box.


    :cooler:
     
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    Sorry can't help you with your problem but welcome to FUN. (y)
     
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    I agree with Mariner, If you know how to double declutch do that. I found with my 1999 autosleeper Ravenna if I changed up slower it would fall into gear ok.
     
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    With my 1991 Renault Trafic diesel I 'blip' the throttle between gears, it just makes changes easier.

    My previous MH, a 2004 Ducato had a seized linkage - a common problem that makes you think that the gearbox is a problem - sorted by freeing off the linkage
     
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    M 6 speed transit was very difficult to get into 4 gear, But when i let the stick find it's middle sprung position it just drop in. I was catching the gate either side of the gear slot when i hold it loosely it slides right in.
     
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    Thanks very much for all your advice. I have tried doubling my clutch up and down the box and slowing down to see if it drops in. I've been told by a gearbox company that it's the baulk ring that is worn and stopping gear changes and
    For my model they no longer make parts for the gearbox.
    I would like to think someone could tell me different.
    Thanks again for the help.
     
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    Seized linkage will not cause gear crunching...it will just make shifting harder.
    Gears grind, linkages don't.
    Sounds like second gear synchro is shot.
     
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    The baulk ring is part of the syncro hub and gets everything lined up and turning at the same speed before fully engaging the gear.
    If the ring is worn the gears rotate at different speeds causing the grinding as the gear teeth jump over each other.
     
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    Thanks for that. It's always better when someone takes the time to explain.
    Much appreciated.
     
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    Already did. Read post's #4 & #6.
     
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