Fiat Ducato fuel filter failure/MB&G Warranty

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  1. Dionysus

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    Just had and expensive few days. First trip out this year last weekend in our Scout/Fiat Ducato 40 Maxi 160 M-Jet, 17k miles and serviced last June. When wife asked what the puddle was I confidently said it was the air con....wrong. The fuel filter housing had failed and was pouring out from the top of the casing. Took it to my local Fiat dealer as the its 40miles to where we bought it. No problem as I have the Gold MB&G warrantee. Few days later and it was replaced but cost me £413. £216 for the new one and £128 labour (+VAT). Just seen all the posts re this problem and not impressed as it seems to be quite common. I asked if it was something I could do myself and was told not as the system needs re-repressurising after fitting. The dealer then also told me to stay clear of supermarket diesel as they have a high bio matter content and this will multiply in the filter when not used for a time, then freeze (cold snap last week!) expand and bingo.....never heard of this! To cap it all MB&G warranty refused to cover it as small print states 'CASINGS - if any parts included fails and this damages the casings, they will also be included'. As there were no parts (mechanical or electrical) that failed, just the casing...it wasn't covered. What a liberty...talk about small print get outs.....One plus, glad we took it out for quick trip as we're planning a trip to Germany next month.
     
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    No it does not need re pressurising. The system is self priming after filter change,just turn it over 5 seconds then another burst and it will fire up. Who is feeding you this rubbish?
    I only use ASDA diesel or cheaper if abroad.
    It is something of a topic on forums to find the cheapest whatever :LOL:
     
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    You simply got stiffed by the garage on the unit price of the filter which you can buy for £80. Put it down to experience and buy a spare for out on the road.
    £128 plus VAT labour for 30 minutes including driving it in and out.
     
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    How much Mr. D?

    MAP
     
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    £415 for a fuel filter housing! Daylight robery.
     
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    No the whole job but any honest dealer would be half that and make a living.
     
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    How long did it take to replace? 1 hour max I reckon.
     
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    Am I right in thinking that this fault has been rectified by Fiat now?
     
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    Yes this a job you can do this yourself if your handy with tools as its only a bolt off bolt on replacement. Can be fiddly to get at but that's all.

    The latter model with the 180 engine have a completely different fuel filter type, i.e. It's a canister type not a filter type as on the earlier 160, this makes replacement a doodle but the part is a bit more expensive on the newer version.
     
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    Dionysus, sorry to say you were had. If you have a complete new filter housing it can be changed in about 10 mins. No tools needed. The cost of a spare / replacement on ebay is about £80. Best advice get a spare for your European trip, although they have the same fault over there and spares are easily available.
     
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    We have a late 2014 Peugeot Boxer on the new face lift and that has the same troublesome Filter :(

    Mark @driving sold me his spare filter and gasket with the removal tool (y)

    Never realized the housing could split though :eek: Must get a spare one.
     
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    I would recommend that anyone who has this issue and drives their van with the leak, that they wash the under carriage of the vehicle fully. Diesel is corrosive and it is not a good idea to leave it lying around on the plastics and bonding agents.
     
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    Well stitched up and shows how insurance warranties aren't worth the paper they are written on.
    I thought they changed to the new designed filter around 2012.
     
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    Yes Andy and there's a fitting guide on the forum
     
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    I think a call to trading standards is in order.

    It might also be worth a call to FIAT themselves as this is a well known problem. They probably won't offer you cash but may well offer a discount on your next service at a FIAT service centre. :)

    The VOSA (or whatever they are now called) may also be interested. Possible recall???
     
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    I'm lead to believe, that you also need the removal and fitting tool.
    ( fuel filter removal kit)
    You wouldn't just be able to do it at the side of the road without it.
    I've got one just in case.
     
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    That's what I thought. Isn't it steel or something now instead of plastic or rubber?
     
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    if you had breakdown cover would this not be covered.
     
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    Mines still plastic. But mines a new Peugeot . Think I'll look into buying a steel one. Anyone got a link ?
     
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