Fiat ducato clutch problem

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  1. Chris marshall

    Chris marshall Read Only Funster

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    Hi folks, this is all new to me this motorhome business, around 4 weeks to be exact and I'm loving it apart from a possible clutch problem. I wondering if anyone could advise me on the best approach.
    We had our first outing in our 2004 fiat ducato ci 644 over easter and all went well as far as the motorhome "things" all worked. Only problem was when driving in 3rd,4th or 5th gear and you put the accelerator down, the revs go up as if you've got your foot on the clutch but if you ease off the gas a bit it picks up. The motorhome sets off no problem and soon gets up to speed, just seems to happen when you accelerate when in top gears. Could this be a slipping clutch issue or something else as its fine when setting off? Is there any way to "test" for a slipping clutch.
    Thanks in advance, Chris
     
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    Yes that sounds exactly like a slipping clutch.

    D.
     
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    Put handbrake on fully ,put into gear and slowly let clutch in ,if its slipping it will not stall ...Roy
     
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    If you bought from a dealer take it back for them to fix as the fault would be classed as pre-existing. If bought privately then no come back I fear.
     
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    Thanks for your replies folks, I'll try the handbrake test at weekend. Unfortunately it was a private sale but the condition/history and extras that have been added it was to good to miss. I do have cover with the RAC for parts and labour but that only covers the flywheel, I'm guessing it will be new plates that's needed. Are there such things as heavy duty clutchs for the heavier vehicles?

    Regards,Chris
     
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    3Rd gear try and set off with handbrake on. Give some rev if stalls clutch ok.
    Also ask perv owner if it's been stood a while.
     
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    Wouldn't bother with the handbrake test. Clutch need replacing. You cannot get a heavy duty one, but buy a quality one. Get a clutch slave cylinder too as that fits inside the clutch housing. Had mine done in December.
     
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    :Eeek::Eeek:
     
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    I think I mean the previous owner.
     
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    I don't think the X244 models had concentric slave cylinders.

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  12. Chris marshall

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    Mr clutch quoted £440 for the job, I was expecting more than that I must admit :)
     
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    The previous owner must have known about it as it's not something that can just suddenly develop to that extent - it would be interesting to contact the garage he used first though and see if they'd had it in to them for it ... it would then give you some leverage with the previous owner for selling it with a known fault like that which is deception.
     
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    £10 says Mr Clutch will say you need a flywheel too or they cant warrant the work:sick: But its all in bits by then :eek: +£250 at a guess
    Not so cheap now
    I would use a Garage, your location narrows it down a bit:rolleyes:
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    Hey you, youv'e got yer girlie head on to day:LOL: Its all them cooking pots
    1.The previous owner may not have been aware of any problem
    2. It is well documented that one minuet it was fine and the next it slipped so it can "Just" develop
    3.The service Garage as would we refuse to discuss what the previous owner had done with us (Car Doctor Client Confidentiality) I would say Data protection But GJH might be on my case
    4.May be recourse from a Dealer but wouldn't hold my breath (It was fine when sold, see above and he has no control of how its driven etc etc)
    5. Private sale Caveat Emptor im afraid
    6. Deception ? Prove it:whistle:
     
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    Ooooo ... have you taken too many 'wake-up' pills Geo .... better go and have lie down until they wear off as you are a bit 'hyper'! :D

    1. & 2. I don't believe that I'm afraid - seriously doubt it in this case especially at the price etc that was paid ('gift horse' and all that).
    3. Unless you work for that particular garage you can't be certain ... they would be talking about the vehicle anyway NOT the owner so not sure if DPA would apply and, even if it did, do you really believe that most places would NOT answer the question ... it probably wouldn't cross their minds that they shouldn't!
    4. & 5. Not a dealer but a private sale - if it was a known fault and they sold it without telling the buyer it would be purposefully deceptive - it's not as if it's a small thing like a bulb not working.
    6. By doing the above it may be possible to 'prove' it so that at least a discussion with the previous owner would have some 'proof' behind it - hence why I said to speak to the garage first.
    :p
     
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    Then I must bow to your superior knowledge:notworthy2::hi5:
     
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    You've had too many Weetabix haven't you ... :D
     
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    I don't think it's a concentric. But I did purchase and fit a slave to mine. Sachs @ around £70.
     
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    That's a good price. I would ask what make of clutch that are fitting. I would willingly pay a bit extra for better quality. Sachs, valeo, and maybe LUK. Dont forget the slave cylinder too.
     
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