Fiamma Door Lock

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  1. gypsylady

    gypsylady Read Only Funster

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    Has anyone had any problems after locking their Fiamma Door Lock?

    I mean the Safelock type, not the arm that swings over the habitation door and lock.

    We parked up on an overflow carpark whilst in Inverness to go for breakfast.

    Hub locked the Fiamma lock. He's fanatical about security and ALWAYS wiggles the lock to check it is secure.

    Came back to find the lock open and twisted halfway round. No-one got in presumably because we left the hound inside. (She puts on her deep Alsation voice when she feels like it.)

    We can only think that someone has got hold of a bunch of Fiamma keys because THAT LOCK WAS LOCKED.

    Any comments from fellow funsters?
     
  2. Johns_Cross_Motorhomes

    Johns_Cross_Motorhomes Trader - Motorhome & Accessory Sales

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    Nope!

    Peter
     
  3. pappajohn

    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    if its the cylinder type key with varying depth slots around it then im not surprised.

    very difficult lock to 'pick' but so many uses now that there are literally millions of keys in use.

    the chances of having one to fit are probably remote but not impossible.

    dont be put off using it though.....:thumb:
     
  4. N Luyetund

    N Luyetund Deleted User

    Is that the one that can be opened with a Bic pen top?
     
  5. pappajohn

    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    supposedly:RollEyes:

    iv tried to pick these locks when i did breakdown recovery and if the pins are pushed in too far it has the same effect as not pushing them in at all....it stays locked.
    cant see how a bic pen top can do the job myself as it will hit the first pin and push it all the way in to the stop, effectively locking it again, and the remaining pins cant be pushed in any further.
     
  6. mulaz

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    my lock has came loose twice.
    The nut on the back of the unit had to be fixed with locktite thread lock to stop it happening again.
    all in it needs yearly maintenance a good strip down and constant oiling of the lock to keep it working.
    not sure many people would be able to pick one of these type locks with out damage.
    i pick locks as part of my job (maint engineer) now and again .
    when i have to overcome this type of lock the Dewalt with 10mm drill is called for:RollEyes:
     
  7. davetthedon

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    I don't know about the security angle of these, but mine sticks occasionaly, and i have trouble removing the key. :Angry:
    I have used several methods depending on circumstances, from wd40 to olive oil to
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    one-cal fry spray!! (when I couldn't find the wd40).
    They all work until road grime gets into the lock and requires another squirt.
    I also found it tends to lock/unlock in both directions of the key turn.
    This may have some bearing on the security, ie maybe it didn't latch right.
    By the way, if you've got a convertible BMW, one-cal fry spray is great for lubricating the hood mechanism, my son-in-law is still in awe of my cheapness. :thumb:

    ATB
    DaveT
     
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    Fiamma Lock

    The lock in question is the white plate that opens with a cylinder 'pop-out' lock.

    The plate is then rotated over the habitation door and the cylinder pushes in to lock and the key turned back to secure.

    The key only turns 45 degrees and the key cannot be taken out until it is returned to base.

    Yes, the key can be removed with the cylinder out, but when the cylinder is 'home' and the key removed, we always wiggle the plate to make sure it is secure.

    When we came back to the van the cylinder was out. OK maybe we didnt wiggle enough. But that doesn't explain why the plate was turned about 40 degrees from the horizontal / locked position......... Only someone's hand could have done that........
     
  9. hilldweller

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    The theory is, you heat the pen top and the spring pressures then create the correct key.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zy8sEj8etU"]YouTube - Oxford Magnum D Lock[/ame]
     
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    SHIT! 'scuse the french.
     
  11. Linda and Steph

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    I'm stunned!:Eeek:

    Is it really that easy :Eek!::Eek!:
     
  12. scran

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    door lock

    if its the lock imthinking we had a problem with ours last year it got stick half way couldnt lockit some ones came over and sprayed with wd oil been ok since however we never leave our van in a car park by using middle door as we call it we use front doors and tie a rope or something round the handle on door inside to the rail that is fixed to wall for helping you getting in and out so if anyone tries it won tbudge
     
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    Sorry, can't advise on the Fiamma lock, only advise on lubricating..

    WD 40 is good at releasing seized components but is near useless as a lubricant for locks..
    It washes out the lubricant then evaporates leaving the components with next to no lubricant ..

    Ordinary oil such as 3 in 1 is better but it attracts road dirt.. so your back to square one and more WD 40 .. a vicious circle ..

    The very best is powdered graphite as recommended by lock manufacturers, it won't attract dirt, hold water or freeze in winter ..

    Available in a puffer at most DIY stores .. as an example .. on ebay

    DRY GRAPHITE POWDER LOCK LUBRICANT 50g MICROFINE on eBay, also, Other DIY Tools, DIY Tools, Home Garden (end time 27-May-09 20:48:02 BST)
     
  14. paulharrison

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    Yes or a paper clip have a look on u tube and you will see why we dont sell them Paul:Rofl1:
     
  15. pappajohn

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    why the hell didnt the RAC and GREENFLAG tech help tell us that trick when we needed tech info/help when recovering vehicles with steering wheel disc locks?:Doh:

    no wonder Oxford have changed their locks to a high security key:thumb:
     
  16. paulharrison

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    Oxford had to change them cause you carnt have a insurance approved radial pin type lock
    Paul
     
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