Engine Oil.....what A Carry On !

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  1. Geordies

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    Our MH is based on a Transit MK7 Euro 5.

    When I took it for it's first service the Motorhome dealer changed the oil. Fair enough. So I thought I'd buy an extra litre of the same stuff to have in the van for top ups if req. On the service sheet the garage had used Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 C2. So off I went to Halfords. They did not have any C2, but lots of other Magnatec variants. Looking in the "which oil for your car" book it appeared that the Transit should have Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A1. Confused now !!

    So I went home and looked on the Castrol website. Again it said use A1. To get to the bottom of it I rang Castrol. They were exceedingly helpful, and confirmed A1 is the one I want, actually now superseded by A5. And that while using C2 would not damage the engine, it was not as specified by Ford and could invalidate any warranties on the engine.

    I rang the MH dealer back and put all this to them. They said they had to put C2 in as MHs go to the Continent and the Continent demands low-sulphur oil !! And if the oil was dipped over there it would lead to a fine for not having the "right" oil. C2 is a slightly lower sulphur than A5.

    Anyone ever been "dipped" in France ??

    Strangely, the C2 is correct for Fiats etc, but not Fords, so the dealer just has the one big tank containing this oil. No-one has ever pulled them about it before.

    The way I am thinking is, go out and buy Magnatec 5W-30 A5 and change the oil myself, then bill the MH dealers, unless anyone has other suggestions ? I won't have time to take it to the dealers before France and anyway, how would I have confidence that they would have actually changed the oil ?
     
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    Oil, 'Dipped' in France? :rofl: I have heard it all now! :rofl:

    Craig
     
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    The French have some strange things but! OIL POLICE ?
     
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    Hi.
    In the event of being,"Dipped?" by the French police and told i had the wrong oil in the sump,i would say......



    "The people who......... Gassed and robbed me last night,must have stolen my oil and replaced it with this inferior muck... LOL!!"
    Tea Bag
     
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    Why not contact Ford? I'm sure they must sell the odd Transit to our Continental cousins.
     
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    Change dealer

    Dipstick.jpg
     
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    Male bovine excrament m'thinks. One tank fits all.
     
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    I thought I had heard just about every blag on the planet, but that's a new one on me.
     
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  9. Jean-luc

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    "They said they had to put C2 in as MHs go to the Continent and the Continent demands low-sulphur oil !!"
    So the inference is your motorhome engine burns oil :)
    If it doesn't and it undoubtedly doesn't what difference does its sulphur content make to what comes out the exhaust (n)

    On a serious note. Modern diesels are becoming more and more highly tuned/stressed so oil specification is critical. Not so long ago about 40 bhp per litre was the norm now we have 'standard' production engines producing over 80 bhp per litre.
     
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    What a load of crap.

    In Europe the only thing different would be the make of oil, not the spec.
    The ford spec will be universal as when the engine is factory filled nobody will know which country it will be destined for.

    Sounds like the dealer uses the same (probably bulk tanked, oil in any and all engines.
     
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  11. mickyc

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    :Eeek:

    :giggler::giggler::giggler::giggler::giggler::giggler::giggler:
     
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    Been dipped for red diesel, never for engine oil !
     
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    I got dipped in Italy, my pocket to the tune of 1200 euros.

    spongy
     
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    The only change to oils I have ever heard of is a higher viscosity for places like Spain 5/30 for UK but 5/40 for Spain & Portugal areas. As said sounds very much like a lot of bovine excrement
     
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    Hi Geordies, take it to the ford dealers,,I did £165.00 and that includes 12 months European breakdown.Excellent price I you ask me.
    Lee.
     
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    Yes, but at the MH dealers I got "engine service" (debatable now) and hab service for £210. Next year think it'll have 2 separate services !!
     
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    :roflmto:Having a giraffe . Oil is oil me thinks . As the buisies dipping you oil never heard such . Theyed get there hands dirty heaven forbid .:giggler:STAN
     
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    Before we get carried away with this oil dipping malarkey. Think about it for a nano second. Used engine oil has all sorts of contaminants in it. It turns black within minutes of an oil change in a diesel engine. How are they going to tell what sort of oil was put in there 1000 miles previously by taking a sample from up the dipstick. Even if they did take a sample, it would be impossible to analyse it at the side of the road. I have had oils analysed when running trucks for a living and samples have to be sent to laboratories to be tested. The results can take weeks to come back. Best advice I can give is change your garage.
     
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  19. jumar

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    I had my oil dipped in France!! by a man in uniform.

    Then my windscreen cleaned, as the kind man filled my van with Diesel, this has got me thinking could he have been an undercover Cop.
     
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    Dipstick Craig ? :clap2::rofl:
     
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