engine bang

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  1. tofo

    tofo Funster

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    Fiat duccato swift 520 just 35.000 miles covered fully substantiated
    cam belt changed 1 month back just to be sure
    Going along A 12 Essex to Suffolk
    For a couple of days break
    Strange noise engine wise stopped with smoke all around
    rac arrive and says not cam belt
    Towed off A 12 to services on a rigid pole triple scary
    Camshaft moves when engine turns over


    Recovery arrives says two dogs travel in your m/h
    Under no circumstances in my truck boss will not allow.
    Contact rac who agree no livestock in recovery truck
    Bites the bullet time of we go stop regularly to check
    our babies
    25 miles in all to home

    Fun starts when you get home
    Ring round repairers they say can you drive it over
    none starter says I we cant move it no recovery truck
    Call the rac yes we will move it under 10 miles
    Over 10 miles £100
    garage 15 miles pay up

    So all in all a good time not 1 wasted day

    just wait and see what insurance cover will pay

    edit 1998 purchased 09/08
     
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  2. lindyloot

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    What engine is the ducato. Symptoms you describe indicate the cambelt may have jumped a tooth, this would cause the funny noise and smoke due to the timing being out. How many miles have you driven since the cambelt was changed. Also doble check the cam shaft is rotating and not the sproket come come loose. I have known people forget to torque the camshaft sproket bolt and the engine runs ok untill the key way shears and the sproket turns on the cam shaft. With out more info on type of engine and a bit more info on what happened unable to give a better diagnosis. Although you had it done a month ago it certainly seems that a failure on the instilation has possibly caused the failure, if that is the case then you have a claim against the company which did the job for you. I would recommend it be inspected by a garage independent from the one that did the job for a warranty claim
    Rich
     
  3. tofo

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    1.9 turbo diesel
    warrenty(mb&g) is via supplying dealar 4mnths to run
    called mb&g they pay for covered repair but not diagnostics ?
    vans being taken to where my works vehicle is maintained by rac for £100 ,15miles:Eeek:
    dont know whats wrong till they look
    rac man got me to turn it over with filler cap off
    shaft turned
    your probaly right about belt jumping
    think a tensioner might have gone for a rest
    thing is watched the fella that changed the belt( i am nosey really)
    appeared to do a professional job
    thing is before the belt change
    van needed many gear changes going up slight inclines 5-4-5-4
    rowing it along so to speak
    belt changed 5th gear over 40 climbed all the essex suffolk& norfolk mountains:Wink:
    no probs
     
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    Did you have just the belt or the kit put on ( belt and tensioners) we always recommend having the kit fitted . We offer the choice to our customers but most vechicle manufactures will not guarentee the belt unless the kit is fitted.If the engine still turns over it may be the injection pump has gone out of time Being a 1.9 it sound's like to me to be the early fiat engine or possibly the xud engine. On the xud engine I have experienced a piece ( rib) of the alternator belt breaking off and entering timing belt cover, causing the cam belt to jump a tooth . I have then fitted a new cam belt and the engine has sustained no internal damage and this matches the symptoms you have described.Fingers crossed you may be lucky.
    Rich
     
  5. tofo

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    kit as far as i could tell fella
    said not much pricewise between good quality and others
    new belt resembelld old belt
    annoying thing is i used to do my own work
    but cant manage it these days
    no maual available (book type like haynes)
    and time constraints
     
  6. johng

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    Rich, yep I can vouch for this..

    I do have a spare Lucas XUD 1.9TD engine lying about the place, worst case scenario :BigGrin:

    (although I would need to remove it from it's present donor this week)

    ps.. the last 4 alleged cambelt failures I have fixed for people, were all tensioners, not belt breakage :O

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