emmissions rule Crystal Palace site

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  1. mrsrogers

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    emmissions rule Crystal Palace site
    Posted Today at 09:13 by mrsrogers
    We want to go to Crystal Palace Caravan Club site in June, we have just learnt that it will cost us an extra £200 because of the emmissions rule our motorhome is 'T' reg, Ford Squire Herald, 2.5 diesel engine, is there any way to avoid this payment?
    Pam and George
     
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    Don't go to crystal palace. Try other places.
     
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    PS, if tourists kept away from London, the London economy would suffer, then perhaps there might be a review of these barbaric charges.
     
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    There aren't enough of us. Most tourists to London fly in. We haven't even as much effect as a flea on an elephant's bum. :BigGrin:

    Ivy
     
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    No - look for another site outside the London Emission Zone

    See this useful thread http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/uk-touring/7983-london-camp-site-outside-lez.html

    Catherine
     
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    You might find its £200 a day:Eeek:
    Thats at least one day to get in and one day to get out plus any days you drive in and out on trips
    cheaper to go to Spain full board:thumb:
     
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    Its plain to see London doesn't want us, so why should we want to go there?
     
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    I dont want to appear rude but have you really given this any thought. London has a low emission zone for good reasons. The millions of people who live and work in London are being poisoned by vehicles. There are many ways to visit our capital city without driving your polluting motorhome.:thumb:
    Now would you like to maybe readdress your post. :Smile:
     
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    It is a bit of a bummer I know, my brother lives half a mile inside the zone in Harrow. It was going to cost him £200 every time he left his drive to drive the half mile to the zone boundary. He changed his van at great cost to himself. But it's in a good cause cleaner air for our kids:thumb:
     
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    Try Sewardstone Road Lea Valley (Lee Valley) Campsite or the campsite at Debden. Both can be accessed without touching the LEZ if you plan your route and both not far from public transport
     
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    The UK has one zone, the Germans have many. So you could be right.

    The fact that it and the congestion zone are nice little earners is just a coincidence.
     
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    We used to have killer smog. Restrictions and smokeless fuel transformed this overnight. You dont have to listen to the experts just have a walk through the city on a summer day and tell me we dont have to do something.:thumb:
     
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    Buttons is certainly right, Brian. Many of those of us who suffer from asthma will have had first hand experience of the detrimental effects of particulate emissions from older diesel engines.

    As regards being a nice little earner, the annual LEZ income averages out at around £1.5M (see report Here). Not all that much in terms of the overall TfL budget (see Appendix 1 Here).

    I still think it is wrong that private individuals who happened to own a non-compliant motorhome at the start of the LEZ were not exempted (as some may recall, I wrote to both Ken and Boris as part of the campaign that took place). As regards motorhome owners who live outside the LEZ, though, there are alternatives to entering it and I can't see any argument for them being a special case.
     
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    I understand the need for LEZ especially for service vehicles,but something to be considered is portable appliances. Construction work involves using small engine powered units like compressors cement mixers,pumps, generators and stone cutters. Are these units considered? I would surmise that they probably cause as much pollution as the occasional motor home visiting,,stopping and driving out after a stay. Makes you think,at least it does to me.
     
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    Take your number palates off at the M25 services - no trace for cameras :Smile:
     
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    :BigGrin: and i bet the fine for no plates is cheaper... :Doh:

    Naughty.. tut tut. :Rofl1:
     
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    I remember the smokeless fuel act well, we got free gas fires in Manchester.

    I didn't ( mean to ) say it's not a good idea. But like all these "good ideas" I wonder if in it's present form it does much, they are just blocking the old designs and how many of those are there compared to all the others dumping their pollution ? There are only two solutions, hydrogen and electric and neither work right now.

    And Graham seems to have shot down the economic benefits to London angle, though I did purposefully lump the two pay zones together. And I still smart from the picture of my car that Red Ken sent me.
     
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    Worth pointing out to anyone who doesnt know.. the Low Emmision Zone in London is inside the M25 and there is a map on the link above.
    It covers all diesel vans trucks coaches campers etc registered before 2006 that dont meet euro IV standards

    You can check if you will fall foul of it here
    www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/lez/17700.aspx#tkt-tab-panel-3

    You can pay a daily charge of £100 or £200 per day.. depending on size

    Fines are £500 or £1000 depending on your size

    Dont risk it ..
     
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    Its a dark strange place down there with people having strange habits, like drinking flat warm beer and paying dearly for the privilege :Eeek:. Stay up north were you know you are safe :Cool:.
     
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    If I have to go to London, which I don't often then the train is the answer. It always seems that the trains are packed with people with colds/flu/flatulence so not a pleasant journey but better than paying the congestion charge/LEZ charge/exorbitant parking.
     
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