Electric steps.. any requirements re closing

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  1. andy63

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    Another question I'm afraid...:)
    Are there any rules or codes that govern the fitting of electric steps...
    Again when I did my self build I remember reading somewhere that the there was a requirement for it to close on ignition or engine running..
    On the new van the step has to be closed manually.. and it's possible to drive off with it out..
    So I'm wondering whether that's a fault or acceptable ?
    Andy.
     
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    Our Autotrail 2012 used to close automatically when u started the engine

    Out 2016 IH just beeps at you.

    Probably no help :rolleyes:
     
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    No..it's useless. Get it fixed! You shouldn't have to drive along the road with your passengers listening to bleep bleep when you can't even hear it in the front cab.:LOL:
     
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    My Hymer has never had any means of closing other than the switch inside the hab door. Bloody nuisance it is too.
     
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    Both our previous British motorhomes, Autosleeper & Autocruise, had a warning buzzer and then retracted automatically when engine started. However our new Hymer, being German, has a loud warning buzzer and a button on the dash to retract the step.
     
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    Think yourself lucky Andy.

    Our Chausson teases us with an electric step switch fitted but no electric step!
     
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    I can't help been deaf :LOL:.. I can't hear my parking sensors either but don't see that as a fault though it doesn't help that they Bury the speaker under a seat in the hab area instead of the cab:moon2:..
     
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    If fitted properly your electric step should retract when your ignition is turned on. I have just fitted one to the van and even I managed to wire it up okay.
     
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    Not on ours it doesn't you get a beeper and light and a switch on the dash to put it in, if it didn't go out with the ignition on how would I get out to put the pads under the jacks and set them down manually with th remote.

    Martin
     
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    That's what I thought and did just that on my self build ,but it appears that some of the foreign vans don't bother or just fit a buzzer which is about as much use to me as a hole in the head..
    As Sandra @irnbru has kindly pointed out my hearing isn't great and I don't hear high pitch buzzers at all..:D
    Andy.
     
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    Auto retraction must be an NCC thing!

    A friend managed to nearly kill himself when he started his Autrotrail vans engine for B2B charging and the step retracted, resulting in a nasty fall!
     
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    Hi Andy

    I dont imagine its rocket science to rewire yours to what you are used to.

    Martin
     
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    Ours retracts with ignition. Autocruise Wentworth.
     
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    I suspect not Martin and may well get round to having a look..
    At present mine can be operated with the engine running,or if the engine is off the power management system has to be on..
    The step would have to have a switch to break the circuit to ground if I fitted an engine run closing relay..
    Andy..
     
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    Dangers either way then... sounds nasty...hadn't thought of that possibility. .. was thinking more of the possibility of kneecapping some poor sod with the step out..:(
     
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    I imagine the relevant recommendations will be in this publication

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    EN Standards: EN1646-1:2004
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    Standard No EN1646-1:2004
    Title of Standard Leisure accommodation vehicles. Motor caravans. Habitation requirements relating to health and safety
    ISBN 058045917 9
    Date of Publication 25/04/05
    Approx Pages 38
    Description Caravans, Caravanettes, Road vehicles, Motor vehicles, Safety measures, Design, Grades (quality), Bunks, Beds, Strength of materials, Mechanical testing, Potable water, Water supply, Waste-water drainage, Ventilation, Heaters, Fire safety, Doors, Windows,
    Cross references EN3-7, EN721, EN1646-2, EN1648-2, EN1949, EN13878:2003, ISO 4649:1985, IEC 60364-7-708
    International Equiv (If Applicable ) EN1646-1:2004
    Replaces Standards : BS EN1646-1:1999
    Replacement Notes
    Now Replaced By
    Replaced by Notes
    Committee Ref B/511

    To obtain a quote for this standard, you can email BSI directly via the following email address:
     
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    Aahh German motorhome engineering makes sure that the step electrics are foolproof..you have to do it yourself . Lol.
     
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    It would appear Hymer don't do it properly, ours beeps (if it remembers ) if the step is out when you start engine, we have a manaul switch by door and next to cab seat. I really don't like the idea of retraction on ignition, we had it on our last MH (Pilote) I (we) nearly had a really nasty accident, Bev was getting into MH when I started engine, the step vanished from under her feet. Bonkers IMO
     
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    Not just Germany lol mines french I think... A chausson...sounds more like a breed of dog... and I'll not go there but have to say I'm not over the moon with the the build quality... but ill not start lol..
    Andy
     
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    I shouldn't really "like" that but I did anyway:LOL:

    Martin
     
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