Ducato 2011 model: Adding a tow bracket

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  1. Ridgeway

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    Typically what is required to add a tow bracket to a Ducato ?

    Looking at the chassis it looks like it would need a cross member or perhaps a frame C shape bolted on, are these parts standard and what sort of prices are they ?

    I assume after that the tow bar fits straight on to this cross member, electrics through that etc

    Anyone good UK installers ? we could get it done when back in the summer, slightly cheaper than here....
     
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    two things to consider....

    is it on an Alko chassis ?
    if so then fitting a towbar would need the correct one as an Alkochassis shouldnt be drilled as its galvanised.

    standard chassis usually arent long enough and will need an extension fabricating to extend the chassis all the way to the rear.

    there are many towbar fitters out there....google motorhome towbars.

    average prices are around £500 fitted, with electrics.
     
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    Tow Bar

    Try PWS poole:Wink:
     
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    You will need an alko specific towbar and ensure they fit;

    A canbus unit

    There have been well known towbar fitters fail on this resulting in fires after attaching towing electrics under load - the new ones do need a canbus!:thumb:
     
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    That's good info to know, will keep that in mind:thumb:
     
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    PWS quoted me nearly £900 to fit a bar to my 2008 coachbuilt.... priced themselves out of the market

    Towtal in the midlands quote £350

    In the end had it done locally for £375


    all quotes included single canbus compatible wiring
     
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    Towtal looks a good option, only around 1hr away from where we'll be. I'll contact them and get some prices.

    Thanks
     
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    £499 at Towtal, 4-6hrs to fit. Includes all electrics and canbus.

    Pretty good me thinks
     
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    In the N W is Michael Parkinson, Freckleton near preston. Have used him for years and he will be cheaper than the others. Around £300 if my memory serves me correctly.
    Fitted by 07 Boxer with a very good tow bar that looks and acts the business.
    Call him on 01772634215 and ask him for a quote
     
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    That would give me a good reason to visit Preston, haven't been in years.

    Many thanks for that !!!!

    Could make it there on the way to relatives that live in Lancaster.

    Will call for a price.
     
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    Fitted by (to) 07 Boxer with a very good tow bar that looks and acts the business.
    Call him on 01772634215 and ask him for a quote

    Don't know why I typed that, MUST HAVE BEEN ANOTHER SENIOR MOMENT. :thumb:
     
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    Had a towbar fitted to my Alko Chassis clad Bentley last December. A local steel fabricator made it and fitted to chassis. All mounts had to be in the existing Alko holes and it had to be taken right back to the rear axle. Total job cost of £200, wiring extra at electricians.
    Didn't think that was a bad price as bought direct they range from £250 supply only. If you have an original chassis a buy off the shelf item may suite your vehicle.
     
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    The huge problem with motorhome towbars is, because of different body lengths (behind rear wheels) and the way different manufacturers extend the chassis there are too many variables to make a standard bar. some just bolt on thin C section floor strengtheners that are nowhere near strong enough to take a towbar. In this case, additional rails need bolting to the chassis and extended to the rear of the motorhome. Some I have seen are so over engineered that they weigh a considerable amount that you loose of your loading allowance

    Having said that, I have heard that towbars for motorhomes built after 2012 will need to by type approved. one of the first manufacturers to do a standard bolt on towbar for an entire range is Elddis with their autoquest and avantguard range from 2009 onwards. This is much the same as with alko chassis towbars, which fit to the predrilled holes in the chassis
    see here for a "standard bar" to suit the above
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Elddis-Au...ervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item3373f4bcb6
     
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    £450 from Mr Parkinson, looks like he's missing some talk show work.....

    He did say 450 with chassis extensions and 350 without although I know that I'd need them. These prices inc electrics and 2 part paint process, Galv possible but would need some more days to get that done.

    Sounds like a very knowledgeable person.
     
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    dont think that van will be as shiny underneath if it goes to peterborough this weekend:Rofl1:

    seriously though, that extension makes fitting a bar simply a nuts and bolts job. All the manufacturers are going to have to do the same though to comply with the new regulations. If there was an enterprising engineering company left in this country, they could develop a standard extension for the Fiat chassis and sell it to the motorhome industry. This would lead to standard bars on ALL new vans, but that would be too easy:Doh:
     
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    I will post pics tomorrw of the PWS bar that is now fitted, uses the 3 bolts right at the back. does look like a standard bar with an adaptor plate to suit the chassis extension.
     
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