Driving a motorhome with the gas on! (1 Viewer)

[Jim]

I've received a note this morning from a worried Mr G Camber.

".....I am horrified to see how many of your subscribers do NOT turn off their gas supply when driving.

Please refer them to Section 96 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use ) Regulations 1986 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/96/made where they can see for themselves that it is totally illegal to do so."

 

[Stretto Boy]

But presumably OK if you have a Drive-Safe regulator, that turns the gas off in the event of a crash? Otherwise, what's the point?

 

[irnbru]

I thought there was some special valve that some folk used to make it safe to have gas on while driving?

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[Silver-Fox]

The way I read that is if it has a fail safe i.e. A thermocoupler or no naked flame outside the appliance i.e. Contained within the limits of the vehicle all is good

Unless I'm wrong of course

 

[MC 55 FUN]

I thought there was some special valve that some folk used to make it safe to have gas on while driving?

An excerpt from the link in Jims post :

(5) No person shall use, or cause or permit to be used, in a vehicle to which this regulation applies which is in motion on a road any gas-fired appliance unless it is fitted with a valve which stops the supply of gas to the appliance if the appliance fails to perform its function and causes gas to be emitted

 

[irnbru]

But presumably OK if you have a Drive-Safe regulator, that turns the gas off in the event of a crash? Otherwise, what's the point?

Maybe Mr Camber doesn't know about this valve?

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[Deleted member 29692]

The way I read that it says the gas fired appliances may not be used. I see nothing there that says anything about isolating the gas supply.

Back to the clipboard Mr Camber . You obviously have plenty of time on your hands

 

[Madeinengland]

Not disputing the rights & wrongs, but my first thought after reading post was - big brother is watching you.

 

[Deleted member 29692]

Maybe Mr Camber doesn't know about this valve?

He also doesn't know about the special exemption that allows you to use all your gas appliances simultaneously whilst travelling as long as you're towing an A frame in Spain

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[Deleted member 29692]

Does this have the feel of a "grassed up to the teacher" moment?

 

[Stretto Boy]

Further to my above post, the regulations appear to apply to the use of gas-fired appliances whilst a vehicle in motion and do not per se require the gas bottle to be turned off. Mind you, on my previous motorhome I always turned the bottle off when travelling. After all, it had diesel heating and the fridge was running off the 12 volt supply : so I thought it was sensible to turn the gas off as no downside if I was not running any appliances. My new motorhome has an underslung LPG tank with a Drive-Safe regulator and the literature says you can use the gas heating whilst on the move.

 

[snailtrailer]

I'll check with the Boss but I think we always turn off our gas before travelling - wouldn't want to take the risk

Sincerely, Goody Two Shoes

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[irnbru]

I wonder if Mr Camber is s read only funster and that's why he hasn't started the thread himself.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Checked it's not April 1st

Tried to rearrange name to see if it's an anagram and if it's a wind up and couldn't

I can only presume Mr Camber has skim read the regs and missed something

Or again I'm wrong

 

[Hellski]

All those big petrol RV owners that have had an lpg conversion are going to be miffed now that they have to isolate their gas supply before moving off

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[chaser]

Where has he had his information from though, I havnt seen many threads where it says someone is traveling with gas on, only as an aside to something else, and how would you drive a gas powered vehicle with the gas turned off.

Edit sorry was writing this at the same time as the previous post.

 

[Deleted member 29692]

Is Mr Camber one of those people who writes letters to The Times signed "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells"?


Horrified is a bit of an extreme reaction isn't it.

 

[Chris]

How else is my wife expected to make a brew when we are on those boring old motorways doing 70mph?

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[KeithChesterfield]

The only time I turn off the gas is when the MH is in storage or going on to Eurotunnel.

Am I a naughty boy?

(I use the term 'boy' loosely - perhaps 'old git' might be nearer to the truth)

 

[MikeD]

Section 96 is referring to Gas fired appliances when a vehicle is in motion

 

[MC 55 FUN]

How else is my wife expected to make a brew when we are on those boring old motorways doing 70mph?

Maybe fire up the charcoal Barbie . . . .

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[Deleted member 29692]

I have to have mine on when travelling.

The pump that sprays my grey water over the road is gas fired

 

[Chris]

Mr Camber says that the practice is "totally illegal"

I disagree. I would say its unlawful.

We all know illegal is a very big, sick bird.

 

[Zigisla]

Snippet from Truma's operating manual
Operation while driving – Directive UN ECE R 122 stipulates that a safety shut-off device is required if motor homes and caravans are heated while driving. The Truma MonoControl CS gas pressure regulation system satisfies this requirement. Throughout Europe, a type-tested liquefied gas heating system may be used while driving (according to the directive UN ECE R 122) if the system includes a gas pressure regulator with an appropriately configured gas installation. National regulations and rules must be followed. – If no safety shut-off device (e.g. as contained within the Truma MonoControl CS gas pressure regulation system) has been installed, the gas cylinder must be closed when driving and information signs must be attached in the gas cylinder protection box and in the vicinity of the control panel. – Liquid gas equipment must not be used when refuelling, in multi-storey car parks, in garages or on ferries.

Exactly what the legislation above states. Looking at the previous thread on this, all of those who stated they travel with gas on also stated they have a "burst valve" of some description. But, very few said they travel with an appliance on. I think Mr Camber has crossed wires. Travelling with gas on is far different from travelling with appliance switched on.

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[chaser]

Who is he though, someone who just wants to help, someone who wants to show he knows better than everyone else, police, gas man, funster, what is his intention?

 

[eddie]

I've received a note this morning from a worried Mr G Camber.

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I tried to read Mr Q Cumbers link and couldn't find how I turn my gas off and drive my LPG fuelled motorhome?

 

[rb62]

Another cows in the field, thread shock horror

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[irnbru]

Me G Camber..gas chamber

 

[Hellski]

Section 96 is referring to Gas fired appliances when a vehicle is in motion

I appreciate this and my comment was said tongue in cheek

 

[Enword]

I wonder if Mr Camber is steering us towards a bump in ackerman street to see if the drive safe valve works

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