Draught coming in through the fridge vents

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  1. Allanm

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    I went into the van a couple of days ago during the high winds and noticed quite a draught coming in between the microwave oven and the fridge.
    So, I had a good poke around inside the top vent and it seems the seal around the back of the fridge, doesn't!
    I assume when the fridge is running on gas, there is the potential for fumes from the fridge exhaust to enter the van through this gap? :Eek!:
    Thinking back, I remember noticing the same draught one day when we were away just after buying the van and while the fridge was running on gas (which it generally is) and if memory serves me correctly, the fumes contain carbon monoxide?
    I assume the gap has always been there, nothing has moved, so we have been living in a potentially dangerous van on and off for the past 6 months........

    I think I might have to phone up Autosleepers after the holiday.......

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    The fridge SHOULD be sealed. Not many manufacturers install ANYTHING properly according to the installation instructions.
    Yes, as you rightly say, the fridge has the potential to leak CO inside the van.:Eek!:

    Yes, Autosleepers deserve a kick up the arse!:Angry:
     
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    We have always noticed on any van that there is a draught coming from around the fridge when that side is to the wind.
    Many times I have sealed around it with some packing tape to keep the van warm.
    Not pretty but it's something I've always done and accepted, aren't they all like that then?
    We too have an Autosleeper but have had it with other van as mentioned.
     
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    There is a wooden frame around the back of the fridge with neoprene foam glued to it that should butt up to the fridge, problem is, theres a 5mm gap, where the draught comes in. I am guessing this should create a seal to stop any fumes going back into the hab area. I'll see what AS say!
    Allan
     
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    Sounds as if AutoSleepers at least made a decent attempt at sealing the fridge (wooden battens plus foam strip) - just didn't get it quite right. Had the same draught/fume problem with the TEC Tower in my Hobby - details here: http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/fridges-ovens/67258-tectowers-what-ive-learnt.html

    The proper draught-proofing of motorhome fridges has become a personal crusade of mine. If everyone refused to buy a van until it had been demonstrated that the fridge was draught-free, the manufacturers would soon get their act together.
     
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    Our Elddis had draughts aplenty from the fridge.
    Our current Chausson is well sealed.

    Fridge draughts must be an NCC requirement!!!:Laughing:
     
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    No, we have a Thetford N3150 fridge freezer, I have a vent cover in the lower vent only, the one in the top vent got very hot and stopped the fridge working properly.

    Just sent an email to A/S to see what they think, but I will take it into the dealers later and let them have a look.
    I would fix it myself, but we aren't using the van for a week or two and as I spent £50K+ on it, I expect things like this to be right or at least fixed afterwards.

    Allan
     
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    Exactly! If people are prepared to fix it themselves then there's no incentive for manufacturers to spend the production line time (and hence money) installing fridges properly in the first place. :wub:
     
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    I found when fitting a new 240v element that the foam wasn't really doing anything so I refitted it correctly Also, round the front of the fridge housing, I have fitted draught excluder foam strips as you would fit round house windows. Seems to do the trick. When the van is laid up as now I fit the winter vent covers and then wrap clingfilm round the insect screens to help keep the temperature up in the van.

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    in the case of a new van, have it sorted under warranty. if on an older van remove the vent covers and use duct tape to cover the gap between battons and fridge. its likely that this is what the dealer will do anyway
     
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    I recently fitted a later model fridge to mine.
    You can see the sealing strip peaking out along the bottom edge, this goes up the sides too but was poorly sealed at the top by Rapido. I had to modify it for the new unit anyway so complete 100% now
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    I have found all my British vans had the fridge not sealed properly, fortunately my last two German and French seem to be sealed fine.
     
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    Gas Fridges, Draughts etc.

    One of the first thing I did when we got NINA was to fit a Carbon Monoxide alarm. Near the side door and low down as CO is heavier than air :cry:. Peace of mind :Wink:

    Best Wishes for the new year. Mobic
     
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    Luckily, we have a CO and a smoke alarm already fitted.
    I had a good look around in daylight and it only seems to be the top left corner, about 6 or 7 inches from the corner, that does not seal.
    Above the top fridge vent, there are two circular vents, I assume for the microwave. These seem to vent straight into the housing the microwave is in , and as there is a gap around the microwave, the draught comes in there too.
    I sealed these off temporarily, but the draught still comes through the fridge seal.

    Heres a view of the van showing the vents. It was sunny and warm so we didn't notice any draughts then....

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    Allan
     
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    Happy new year, first post of 2014 for me.
    Actually, co is slightly lighter than air but mixes readily with the air in the room, so, technically, you can place it anywhere as long as it is away from doors, windows and at sources of ignition (ie, stuff you are monitoring)
    I used to work closely with Kent Fire and Rescue, their recommendations were that the detector should be at head height so it can easily be seen and in places where people spend most time.
    Ours is about a foot down from the ceiling in the rear bedroom.
    Allan
     
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