Do you use contactless payment cards ?

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  1. Jaws

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    if you do then do yourself a favour ... Go on fleabay and just put in RFID

    YOUR CARD CAN BE READ, COPIED, CLONED OR CHARGED TO FOR AS LITTLE AT A FIVER.

    Considering pretty much all the banks that are using contactless payment have no way to opt you out of the system you would think they would at least make users more aware of how easy it is to abuse !
     
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    I asked for a non contactless card from my bank for that very reason. They didn't listen and sent me them. I have bought a bag to stop that kind of copying and I keep them in there. I don't like them at all.
     
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    We have them despite not wanting them so have them wrapped in tin foil when in wallet/purse. We have no intention at all of using contactless payment. The deliberately lax security implemented by the card issuers was already bad enough without adding extra flaws.
     
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    Bugger, was not aware of that, I use mine but wasnt aware of the risk. The only consolation is that the banks will reimburse.
     
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    @Jaws thread title, "Do you use contactless payment cards ?"

    I try not to John, and like others, and for the same reasons, I didn't want the blooming thing. :(

    Thanks for the "heads up". (y)

    @GJH, I've only got the one, so our roll of catering foil will be coming into use too. :LOL:


    Cheers,

    Jock. :)
     
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    So wouldn't you think it would be cheaper for them to make the cards safer and then they could pay us some interest with all the money they have saved :)
     
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    The banks are receiving payment from advertisers as the cards are used to activate smart boards.
    As you approach them, they read your card, get your info from the card database as to your recent purchases and display adverts they think would be relevant to you.

    At the moment ( as far as I am aware ) I do not have any contactless cards, but should I be forced to accept one then I shall get a card protector wallet and invoice the card issuer the price.
    No idea if I will succeed in getting the lolly but at least it will cause a headache for someone...
     
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    Thanks for that warning. I've just ordered an RFID blocking wallet! I had not realised how vulnerable these cards are.
     
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    My bank sent me one.
    I phoned and told them I didn't want it.
    After a bit of "oh they're fine, why don't you?" the guy agreed to have it changed, then told me he totally agreed and gave me even more scare stories!
    They sent out a 'normal' card and I cut up the contactless one.
    Otherwise I'd have changed banks.
    Our other bank asked first, so 'no thanks' to them too.

    I didn't know passports were at risk.
     
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    Nor me, until I looked at the sleeves and wallets. :eek:

    In my case, that'll be Lincolnshire Sausages which I bought from my local butcher, just to try the card out. :LOL:

    Cheers,

    Jock. :)
     
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    So this guy was spotted wandering round with a Point of Sale (POS) device. All he has to do is key in a price less than £30 and then touch the device on the pocket that contains your wallet. Ching! You've just been charged automatically on your touch pay enabled credit/debit card.... We just tried this in my local pub with their POS device and it worked... (I've actually shown people this using the NFC function on my mobile to read their card data through their wallet to freak them out but this is the first time I've seen someone doing it for real). Time to invest in a screened wallet I guess...
     
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    Why oh why are we happily walking into Orwell's 1984 Big Brother???
    Is an expectation of personal privacy a thing of the past???

    When I was renewing my MH insurance, I was telling one firm (who phoned to follow up on a quote they'd given me) that I'd taken out my policy with another, he kept asking me which firm I'd gone with, why, and how much I'd paid - I was trying to be polite but felt that my financial dealings were MINE not his, and he said he "didn't understand why I was being so coy about it"! BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE!!!
     
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    Good on you CWH. (y)

    Jock. :)
     
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    My mum uses it occasionally - she actually told ME how it works and she's 90!!!

    I've never used it but my hubby has - I do NOT like it ... give me a standard chip and pin one any day!
     
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    Doesn't the tin foil imprison the moths?:LOL:
     
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    If you examine your card carefully you can see the loop aerial extending from the chip. A small drill could cut this. I do not know if this would stop the contact part working but probably not.

    I did take one apart ( after a clone attack ) to see how they work.
     
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