Diy trackers.

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  1. Vlad The Impaler

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    As has been brought to our attention again recently our pride and joys can and do get stolen :cry:
    There have been a few posts about self tracking using fairly cheap trackers found on eBay
    What are the pros and cons,the best units,how easy are they for the thieves to detect? Etc.
    Opinions and thoughts please!






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    van gets stolen, you self track to a gypsy camp......or a dodgy lockup unit with half a dozen no-necks in residence.

    what you going to do then....ask nicely for it back.

    police will probably act on it once reported but how many pieces will it be in when they get there.

    police cannot track in realtime unless its a recognised tracker with a proper control centre.

    better to have a proper gps tracker so plod can trace the van while still on the move and recover it in one piece.
     
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    Any information on insurance when a tracker is fitted - do you get a reduction?
     
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    I'd consider the Vanbitz tracker must be compliant?
     
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    only if its insurance approved, which means a proper tracker with subscriptions and a control centre
     
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    Even then, you cant seem to get a reduction. We had a Phantom2 system on our tow van for five years, No reduction at all, even though I argued the toss with different companies. :Angry:
     
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    I've not got one ,however if I did reducing my premium wouldn't come into it my insurance is cheap enough enough already IMO .
    I would be more interested in being able to act quickly if the worst ever happened!







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    very true, it is of course up to the insurers if they discount or not.
     
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    They probably wouldn't because the occupants will be protected under the Human Rights Act 1998
     
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    if you self track your stolen motorhome to a gypsy camp or a gang of thugs, just ring the police and mention one of them appears to be carrying a handgun. no delay in them getting to you and the thieves wont argue with a couple of H&Ks being aimed at them

    soon say you were mistaken afterwards:Rofl1:
     
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    have [back2you] fitted since new
    1-phone up day/night -gives long/lat position
    2- movement/tamper. will tx alert
    3- set goe fence
    4 - panic button / up to 5 informants/family
    5 - micraphone / listen into conversation
    6 - engine cut off switch
    look at web site they have updated since i bought mine

    also have in line alarm fitted to cat

    doors alarmed including lockers


    :thumb::thumb::thumb:
     
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    They will track using anything to hand. Even if it means logging into your account to see where the vehicle is. My friend recently located a stolen laptop using "Find My Phone" live tracking……The victim telling the officer over the phone where it was. I'm even aware that some forces have paid the cost of getting a dormant tracker activated in order to locate a high value vehicle. The bottom line is PJ not everyone can afford a monitored tracker, so a self-fit is a secondary option.

    Why would the motorhome be in pieces?
     
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    we should agree to disagree on the police intervention and tracking methods but google it and check the results.

    It wont be stolen to sell on...not in this country at least.
    it will be stolen for parts, theres a lot of money in UNTRACEABLE spare parts, far more than for a complete TRACEABLE and documented motorhome.
     
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    What is the approx cost of a monitored tracker,and what's the difference in the tracking device it's self ?
    Not the fact that someone else monitors it for you,what does their device have that the cheaper option doesn't.




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    trackers can cost hundreds and subscriptions vary but are around £100 pa.

    Difference is a monitored tracker uses GPS and, laterly, VHF transmissions....a sim card tracker uses the mobile phone network and as such relies on cellular masts and repeaters to locate to an approximate location.

    A decent GPS signal from 6 or 7 satellites will locate to a few meters....the more active satellites, the more accurate the location
     
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    Most of the info refers to companies who require an instant police response, based on just the initial alarm....Type A calls. The others Type B, require more info.....Ie confirmation that a criminal offence is in progress......My van trundling down the m6 without me at the wheel is a criminal offence......obv you may not get an immediate response, but certainly in my area £20k's worth of van would get some sort of action.

    The price between monitored and non monitored is narrowing, I will probably go down that route eventually. But I do like the fact that my self monitored has a movement sensor, so I get an alarm if the van is being interfered with, which is important to me because of where it's parked.
     
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    mmmmm not certain i trust that company to provide security or tracking products. no physical address just a premium rate number and amateurish website. they no doubt buy in from elsewhere and just put a markup on the item. whats to stop them selling the tracking info and disable code to thieves

    either buy from a reputable company with a real presence or buy off ebay etc and fit your own simcard
     
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    It's a uk based company, had a faulty lead, replaced in two days. It will do me for a year..I agree, it's all Chinese stuff.
     
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    I have a self installed tracker... Works very well. Provides all the info commercial tracker does and relays it back to me it is susceptible to Gps and gsm blocking but so are commercial ones. I do get an insurance deduction for it.
    I do not rely on tracker alone. I have a cat 1 alarm Covering all doors and I have physical security and a live cctv motion sensing alarm on the drive.
    I'm still careful though..
     
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