Difficulty buying Ducato headlights

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  1. chuns

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    Finally got our new LHD Ducato based Adria 670 into the UK, where it now resides in a barn until I can get it homologised and registered in the UK, before taking it back to France.

    Buying UK headlights in order to satisfy the VCA from Fiat is proving to be problematic. In order to get the appropriate spares the Dealer asked for the VIN. Being German, it throws up a LHD set of headlights, and it appears that, even once over that hurdle, there is uncertainty about the correct part numbers – I have been quoted two different pairs at two (vastly) different prices.

    The dealer really needs a late model vehicle to get a UK VIN off it, but my local, and slightly further afield, one didn’t have any around that they could go and refer to.

    To be certain, what is need is a UK VIN or Registration Number.

    Does anybody have a UK spec 2015 x-290 Ducato Motorhome that then can “lend” me the VINumber, and the reg in order for me to get a quote? This can be done via PM is this sort of info has any sensitivity surrounding it.

    Better still, if you happen to know the correct part numbers, I shall be equally in your debt.

    Thanks for reading thus far, I hope you can help.


    Peter
     
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    Hi Peter,

    Lifted this from the Fiat Forum may help.

    Phil.

    Part numbers are as follows:
    1374294080
    1374298080

    Sorry I don't know which is the left and which is the right headlamp!

    Purchased from Tates in Portslade, East Sussex - tatescars.co.uk
    Price £397.80 including VAT

    These were the version without the LED Daytime Running Lights, instead they have the side light (conventional bulb) lit permanently. That's what my motorhome had fitted originally.

    I'm pretty sure the wiring connector will be the same for both types (LED and bulb). I can't see Fiat making a different wiring loom for each type.
     
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    @chuns You've beaten me to it. I was going to post something very similar. We're importing a Hymer Tramp SL in two weeks' time and have just started to explore changing the headlights.

    We've had a quote from a Fiat main dealer of £202 per light and total £510 fitted. The ones already fitted on the van have the LED Daytime Running Lights, and we'd like to keep to that when we change them, although he's quoted us for the conventional ones.

    We also mentioned to the Fiat garage about the possibility of switching a rear fog light to the other side, but he wasn't used to motorhomes, so was a bit unsure about doing this. (We don't even know whether the van has two or one rear fog light, so we're waiting til we get it to really see what's what.)

    If we can find the right parts, we'll probably look at getting a local auto electrician to come to the house and do the whole job, including fitting the overlay to the speedo -(We're not that very mechanically/technically minded and not confident about doing the work ourselves.)

    @Boycie Thanks for that info. We'll contact Tates.
     
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    Phil, that is so helpful, thank you.

    Cheers

    Peter
     
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    Thanks, Bellabee, good luck.

    Can you tell me the part number your dealer quoted, please?

    Are you keeping your new RHD headlights, or replacing them once you have the vehicle registered?

    I did my speedo yesterday, Lockwoods instructions a clear, though Fiat had changed a couple of things. A short and very helpful call to them and it was resolved. They are a good company to deal with.
     
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    Hi Chuns. Haven't got the part number, but will phone them on Monday and ask. We're keeping the RHD headlights.
    If the speedo's not too difficult, we may have a go ourselves.
    Chris
     
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    What you really need is to borrow a set for the exam and then return to the supplied ones once it is done that way you can have the correct ones for you trips abroad and use deflectors in the UK. It is cheaper and a way around the DVLA's way of keeping you from buying abroad, to supply the UK dealers with a captive audience. to pay the super inflated prices here in Treasure Island.
    EEC open market rules should not stop anyone buying where they like. it is the bureaucratic mindset that demands jumping through hurdles.
     
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    Ignore my last post. just checked and they don't do the most recent model by the looks of things :(
    £40 for a new headlight is dirt cheap I thought. Shame they don't do the new ones.
     
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    As an afterthought, despite Phil's definitive answer, can anyone help with a UK VIN or Reg? I'd love to be certain.

    Thanks to all who have input so far.

    Cheers
     
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    @chuns Sorry, couldn't get the part numbers. Rang the garage and they said they hadn't got them they were 'locked away'!
    My husband went to another Fiat dealership today, and the manager of the Parts Department told him to ring in with the VIN number and he should be able to match it to the parts.
    He said that, if this wasn't possible, to wait til we get the van and have a look at the part number on the headlights which are already fitted. Apparently, it should only take them a couple of days to get the parts.
    I'll keep you posted.
    Chris
     
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    Thanks ever so much for taking the trouble, Chris.

    I was just about to do an update, having emailed my local dealer to tell them to put the order for the horrendously expensive ones on hold. Can't have been many minutes after they opened today when I got an apologetic phone call, saying that they had done some further digging and talking to Fiat Central, and that the original quote and part number was correct. So I have reinstated the order. we'll see what transpires.

    Thanks again for the help, and for taking an interest.

    Cheers

    Peter
     
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    surely a main dealer would have a demo vehicle he could take the vin number from?
     
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    You'd think so, wouldn't you?
     
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    @mitzimad That's a bit too much like lateral thinking! Why didn't I think of that?
     
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    Ermm! Just need to say something. I have a left hand drive imported Hymer which if you apply the right kind of stick on headlight directors will pass the MOT no problem at all. Why buy expensive new headlights?
     
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    We won't, if we don't have to, @ No Bull. Can you tell me what kind of directors these are, please? We thought that you had to have new lights. I hope we were wrong.
    Chris
     
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    Just mentioned it to my OH. He thinks that stick on directors are OK for MOT purposes, but not for registration. Maybe someone could clarify this?
     
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    Or get in touch with a van converter and see if you can borrow a pair of headlight units to get registered then swap back seems a waste to spend that much when you don't need them
     
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    They are advertised on eBay as necessary for continental vehicles driving in the UK (sorry can't remember the name, and my vehicle is stored ten miles away) but should be easy to find. They are quite large (surprisingly). But it may be the case registration is a different ball game. However my vehicle was registered by a dealer without changing the headlights (so go figure) ?
     
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