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Judge Mental

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Like I said for some it works,for me no thanks
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dont you think that's a hell of a high premium to pay for a RHD that really costs less then £2000 more for a steering wheel on the wrong side...the window wipers dont even work properly as the RHD are not true conversions..even the cab drivers door on the wrong side:rolleyes:
 
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I considered importing but decided that buying my Hymer from a local dealer who I can ring or call in at the drop of a hat was a back up that I preferred.
Coupled with that as most of our travelling in the future will be in the UK a RHD was the deciding factor.
 
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dont you think that's a hell of a high premium to pay for a RHD that really costs less then £2000 more for a steering wheel on the wrong side...the window wipers dont even work properly as the RHD are not true conversions..even the cab drivers door on the wrong side:rolleyes:

The window wipers on my Hymer are correct for RHD (y)

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Brian and Jo

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Premium or not it's my choice to buy in the UK.having had a business in the UK for 31 yrs I always try to support businesses that are local.if everyone was going to Europe to buy their tyres I wouldn't have a business.like I said if it works for you then do it .its not for me..
P.S.my wipers work fine .
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On the link that emmitdb kindly posted, the price given in euro's has the notation '19.00% MwSt' underneath.
Is this an indication that
there is 19% to be added or
does it mean that 19% is included or
neither of the above
 

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On the link that emmitdb kindly posted, the price given in euro's has the notation '19.00% MwSt' underneath.
Is this an indication that
there is 19% to be added or
does it mean that 19% is included or
neither of the above

I'm sure that Judge Mental will confirm that the 19% vat is included in the price of just under €62000. There would be an additional 1% vat to pay on arrival in the UK ie €620 about £484. There would be other costs but they're nowhere near the £60000+ that they want in the UK

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Allanm

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Don't know how you guys buy new motorhomes months in advance, I just couldn't do it , if I can't buy it today and drive off in it tomorrow , just not interested, apart from anything else if you have waited 6 months , by the time you get on the road , it's last years model, even if you get it when they say.
I'm with Chaser on this. We bought our new van that was in the showroom from a dealer. Exactly the spec we wanted and we drove it away a couple of weeks later ( it would have been sooner but we went on holiday for 10 days after we saw the van) The van had been in the showroom for less than a week.
Anyway, hope you get yourself a van sorted out, I couldn't wait till August. If it's late, thats your summer gone, and if you don't use it all year round, that's a lot of money depreciating over winter when you haven't even used it!
 

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I would be tempted to take the van with a substantial cash wedge coming your way.

Unless it absolutely has to be an automatic.

In that case I would demand a full refund of any deposit and look elsewhere.

Good luck.
 

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I'm sorry this has happened to you. Don't be tempted to settle for the manual, you may be considering it just to get the van, but you will regret that compromise long after you've forgotten all this upset. Good luck.
 

parknride

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Hope you get sorted and to your liking. Sorry for your massive disappointment.

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Judge Mental

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Wipers dont on an A class I can assure you....check, lots complain regards this issue. Fine you want to be mugged off supporting predatory pricing in what is supposed to be a common market!lolFine...your money your choice.

Like I said on any order book I have seen the difference for RHD has never been over £2000 in fact the two manufacturers I know the cost was £1400:rolleyes:

I repeat with A class the whole body is LHD so not a proper RHD conversion. They cost no more to produce.....oh the oven forgot the oven.... now that's worth £25000 more!lol. The caravan door on the wrong side as well. If you want a driver cab door you have to order a second one which weakens the structure IMO

In Europe you can buy from stock just like buying a car here..unless a factory order but still far quicker then waiting on the occasional run of RHD.Can have the van on the road in a month it only takes a day to go get it and get proper professional support and service.....
 
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Judge Mental

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I'm sure that Judge Mental will confirm that the 19% vat is included in the price of just under €62000. There would be an additional 1% vat to pay on arrival in the UK ie €620 about £484. There would be other costs but they're nowhere near the £60000+ that they want in the UK
You export vat free so pay the lower value advertised. Plus discounts up to 17% negotiable on top if new order.... you pay the 20% vat here so Osborne still gets your tax money....
 
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I'm with Judge Mental on this.

Hymer Tramp CL554 are on sale in Germany for €61900. I appreciate that it may (or may not) have the extras but that could be organised.

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They are also on sale in Germany for €73,000 plus the extra 1% VAT on import plus a few other things no doubt so you really have to compare like with like spec and the OP has to want a LHD and be prepared to go back to Germany for warranty and service work, so then possibly it doesn't look so tempting against dealing with the UK and getting exactly what you want at a fixed price and not dependant on you getting a good exchange rate.

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They are also on sale in Germany for €73,000 plus the extra 1% VAT on import plus a few other things no doubt so you really have to compare like with like spec and the OP has to want a LHD and be prepared to go back to Germany for warranty and service work, so then possibly it doesn't look so tempting against dealing with the UK and getting exactly what you want at a fixed price and not dependant on you getting a good exchange rate.

Martin
I think you'll find that this isn't the case.
 
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Wipers dont on an A class I can assure you....check, lots complain regards this issue. .
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Sorry Eddie that is not correct in my experience. My RHD B class wipers run the opposite way to the ones on the LHD ones. Compare this picture (which is a RHD model) with Broken Link Removed (which is a LHD model). The wipers on my B678 are like the ones on the RHD model.
 

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dont you think that's a hell of a high premium to pay for a RHD that really costs less then £2000 more for a steering wheel on the wrong side...the window wipers dont even work properly as the RHD are not true conversions..even the cab drivers door on the wrong side:rolleyes:

Sorry Eddie that is not correct in my experience. My RHD B class wipers run the opposite way to the ones on the LHD ones. Compare this picture (which is a RHD model) with Broken Link Removed (which is a LHD model). The wipers on my B678 are like the ones on the RHD model.
I suspect Eddie is talking about the mechanicals rather than the sweep itself.

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Wipers dont on an A class I can assure you....check, lots complain regards this issue. Fine you want to be mugged off supporting predatory pricing in what is supposed to be a common market!lolFine...your money your choice.

Like I said on any order book I have seen the difference for RHD has never been over £2000 in fact the two manufacturers I know the cost was £1400:rolleyes:

I repeat with A class the whole body is LHD so not a proper RHD conversion. They cost no more to produce.....oh the oven forgot the oven.... now that's worth £25000 more!lol. The caravan door on the wrong side as well. If you want a driver cab door you have to order a second one which weakens the structure IMO

In Europe you can buy from stock just like buying a car here..unless a factory order but still far quicker then waiting on the occasional run of RHD.Can have the van on the road in a month it only takes a day to go get it and get proper professional support and service.....

Just to prove para 1 ? :whistle2:
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Judge Mental

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I think you'll find that this isn't the case.

Yes Hymer have a PROPER Pan European wide warranty system that UK dealers are bound to support..although some will tell you the opposite to support there dubious exploitative position..If you could buy RHD in europe te market would change overnight here!lol
 
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I suspect Eddie is talking about the mechanicals rather than the sweep itself.
Not sure what you mean by that. Mechanically mine work in the opposite direction to those on LHD vehicles. The mechanisms themselves are in different positions on the windscreen as well - just compare the two piccys. I will have to be careful what windscreen I order if my one is ever broken!
 

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They are also on sale in Germany for €73,000 plus the extra 1% VAT on import plus a few other things no doubt so you really have to compare like with like spec and the OP has to want a LHD and be prepared to go back to Germany for warranty and service work, so then possibly it doesn't look so tempting against dealing with the UK and getting exactly what you want at a fixed price and not dependant on you getting a good exchange rate.

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Fair Do's Fun,
They are on sale for €11-12000 more in Germany (and as an aside, the one I identified did say there was an €8000 discount,) but the point is, I put Hymer T544CL into Mobile's website and it gave me 19, yes 19 seperate 'vans for sale, immediately in Germany.

You would be free to negotiate to your hearts content, and that's not a thing I'm good at, but with so much choice, as Eddie, (if I may be so bold) said, there are deals to be done.

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I think you'll find that this isn't the case.

I think the Hymer pan European service and warranty debate has been done here a few times, but either way I can't see your local Hymer dealer bending over backwards to help with with warranty issues after you have just deprived him of a sale. If somebody has experience otherwise OK but if I was me contemplating important that would be one of my concerns.

Martin
 

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Fair Do's Fun,
They are on sale for €11-12000 more in Germany (and as an aside, the one I identified did say there was an €8000 discount,) but the point is, I put Hymer T544CL into Mobile's website and it gave me 19, yes 19 seperate 'vans for sale, immediately in Germany.

You would be free to negotiate to your hearts content, and that's not a thing I'm good at, but with so much choice, as Eddie, (if I may be so bold) said, there are deals to be done.
As the one I identified has €5,790 discounted already. For sure there is a far better choice in Germany and far more chance of finding a stock vehicle that suits but it will still be LHD.

Martin

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Well i for one certainly could not go traipsing backwards and forwards to Germany for snagging problems to be sorted .and i have never heard of a new motorhome that has had no snagging problems .i just wouldnt have the the time .im not sure about Hymer but i know that with N&B Travelworld will not honour warranty work when the vechicle is purchased from Europe.And like Martin that is a big concern for me.
Brian & Jo
 
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Larry - I can see from the number plate that you bought from the same dealer as me (Becks). Must have been after me though because that number plate was still available when I chose mine!

Hi Peter
Yes , bought it from Becks and collected on 9th Feb .
We went to Simpsons at GtYarmouth a couple of weeks earlier to look at a new Rapido with similar layout to the B544 but the central locking and the drop down bed had both failed as well as some doors were loose so we walked away.
Then decided as we were out to have yet another visit to Becks not intending to buy , but did , it had a good spec including auto , should learn to keep hands in pockets :rolleyes:
 

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I think the Hymer pan European service and warranty debate has been done here a few times, but either way I can't see your local Hymer dealer bending over backwards to help with with warranty issues after you have just deprived him of a sale. If somebody has experience otherwise OK but if I was me contemplating important that would be one of my concerns.

Martin
I've never bought abroad however I have had warranty work done in the UK at a separate place to that which I bought a new MH from, the last example being an Autocruise which went to a local caravan repair centre who Swift were happy for me to use.

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