Deadlocks for the Cab

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  1. Mr Colpot

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    We have had some deadlocks fitted by Harrison Locks of Worcester yesterday. Pauls son in law John fitted them while we waited and we chatted about France Passion etc. Paul is at the Malvern Show this week then off to France. If anyone has any handy places to stay in the Champagne region I am sure he would appreciate suggestions. (Tell him Colin says Hallo!)

    Off to France ourselves next week - feeling more secure now when leaving the Motorhome parked up.
     
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    Not impressed with those pictures. Two pop rivets and about 6mm of bolt penetration.

    Am I missing something ?
     
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    It's not always the locks, it's the fact they are there if you had the choice which would you go for standard door or one with extra locks fitted. Any one determined enough don't matter what is fitted. apart from that they have not seen the pictures.


    Dave:thumb::thumb:
     
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    Not sure what the point is:Confused:, I unlock the central locking and leave the deadlock locked, and I cant move the doors (and I am 17 stone and consider myself reasonably strong):Smile:. If the theives are going to drill out the pop rivets on show with the door shut, how are they then going to open the door?
    I am not that naive that I dont know if someone is determined to break in they will. After all there is blooming great skylight in the roof!
     
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    Looks a nice neat job! How much? and do they do habitation doors?

    Ian
     
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    I agree with you any extra security is good and if they're gonna try to open the door by drilling the rivets I hope you'll have woken up by then:Wink:
    I always have extra deadbolts fitted and also an alarm with a sleep mode which we always use when wildcamping or on aires.
    I was parked next to Paul at Newark earlier this year I think he was in a Coachman Concorde really nice guy and I liked his work.
    Still you can't please all the people all the time.:Doh:
     
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    It cost £270 for the pair fitted, and they do habitation door locks. Paul Harrison is a trade member on here and website is www.heosafe.org.uk
    They were recommended elsewhere on this forum.:Smile:
     
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    Thanks, the locks are only for when we are away from the van. The Swift is 18ft long and when we are on board all the valuables are above us, and I would hope to wake up when an intruder steps on me:Smile:, so I can wake Mrs Colpot who will deal with them accordingly:BigGrin:
     
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    Those locks look excellent, they serve as a visual deterrent, they can be locked on the inside, so even if windows are popped they are not opening the door.

    Don't sleep with key in the lock! I have a large ribbon with velcro attached, so when the doors are locked the key is removed and attached via velcro to an easily reached place that is of course not visible from the outside. This has become a habit so should I need to get out in a hurry I know where the key is. :Smile:
     
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    I would vouch for the quality of work provided by Harrison Locks. We had four fitted to our Hymer a couple of years ago. Abus deadlocks on the habitation and driver's door (two different kinds) and another pattern of deadlock to the two garage doors. All four were set to work from a common key.
    The work was done at Paul's home (although I believe he has moved since then) and I agree, he is a really nice guy.

    In fact, I am off to Worcester in a week or two to get an additional lock for the house, that will work from the existing key. It's great to find a true craftsman locksmith in this world of 'DIY Sheds'.

    Philip
     
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    With such small penetration and the thin tin modern vehicles are made from I suspect that a jemmy would bend the door and/or the frame enough in a few seconds.

    So I'm not impressed.

    It might help when you are asleep, some extra noise, so they will go for your next door neighbour instead. That'll please him.
     
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    Hi Colin had a great time in France the snail farm was interesting we never tasted them just stayed on the champagne French passion was good, some one told me about a bakery you can stay at near Dunkirk, they got fresh bread and cakes beats snails Paul
     
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    Quote "With such small penetration and the thin tin modern vehicles are made from I suspect that a jemmy would bend the door and/or the frame enough in a few seconds" end quote


    Its true you know, Ive seen the fire service do it in just under a minuet:RollEyes: but then the sirens and flashing lights would wake you up:Doh:

    Come on Brian show us your versions of a bike trailor and deadlock system:thumb:
    We could all learn something:Wink:
     
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    when I bought the new van in 2007 Paul fitted heosafe internal dead locks to our cab, plus dead locks to camper habitation door and 2 on the garage door. I also had armour plates fitted over the Ford keylock to avoid the most common and normal attack method e.g. a hammer and screwdriver....

    with a decent alarm that can be armed while you sleep thats about all you can resonably do I fink:Sad:
     
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    Proper deadlocks........no fumbling with keys and a secret emergency release incase of battery failure.
     
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    That looks a proper job, but the ridiculous thing is that the manufacturers locking mechanisms are just as strong. They are designed to hold the door secure in a serious accident. What is wrong is just the manufacturers keys. Some clever soul should come along with an unpickable key mechanism to replace the original.
     
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    on the sevell vans its not the locks at fault Brian.....its the bacofoil doorskins.

    you can nearly cut around the locks with a sharp penknife.

    a screwdriver pushed onto the skin beside the lock and shoved sideways will split the metal holding the lock barrel.
    simply a matter then of twisting the whole barrel and pop!!!! the doors open.

    my first van, a CI Carrioca on a fiat base, had been forced this way and split the skin, after removing the barrel i pushed/pulled the skin back into shape with finger pressure only until the split re-aligned finishing off with a pair of pliers.

    they wont use heavier gauge steel as it costs and weighs more and its all about cost cutting these days.
     
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    found an old post of mine detailing the locks...

    heres the suppliers website
    scroll down to Diablock.....worth every penny:thumb:


    Diablock dead locks
     
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    and heres an interesting snippet from the same website.......

    how does your car rate ?????

    Gone in ? seconds
     
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    hi , i remember being in peniche in portugal a few years ago at a surf competion , all the hired corsa,s had been broken into . someone had pierced the doors just below the handle with a spike ,then lifted the locks . the cars were stripped of everything. nearly all british . all hired from the airports. it was amazing how many got done and nobody saw anything in daylight. so simple .
     
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