Cycle lanes should they be used?

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Should it be compulsory to use a cycle lane if provided?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Yes but Inexperienced only to use

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  4. Not bothered

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  1. SandJ

    SandJ Read Only Funster

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    Driving along and a cyclist just came out of a side road without stopping and if I was not aware I could have hit him (braked hard) I wound down the window and said to him "there is a cycle lane on the pavement" he replied "not for all of us" :Eeek: what is the point of providing the cycle lanes if (the select few experienced...ALLEGEDLY....).can decide wether they use them or not.

    So should it be compulsory to use a cycle line if provided?

    Your thoughts?
     
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  2. Jaws

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    Given the recent changes in the RT act, if you hit a cyclist you will be held responsible unless exceptional and provable circumstances are in place.

    With that in mind perhaps it should be amended to say when a cycle lane is available the bias may alter towards the driver as by failing to use the cycle lane the rider has already demonstrated a failure in the duty of care.

    As an aside, perhaps if local councils provided MORE cycle lanes more people would use them
    Woman is VERY nervous cycling on a main road.. to the point it usually limits the places we can actually visit on the bikes, so for us cycle lanes are pretty much essential
     
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  3. thehutchies

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    Quite right, too :BigGrin:

    The bigger your vehicle, the greater your responsibility.

    (In an ideal world :RollEyes: )
     
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    Given the generally appalling quality of cycle lanes in the UK, I cannot see that it would be fair to insist that cyclists use them to the exclusion of roads. Often cycle lanes switch from one side of the road to the other, requiring the cyclist to dismount and cross over - sometimes using a traffic light to hold up motor vehicles. Other lanes are nothing more than a narrow designated strip down the left of a normal carriageway, marked by a broken white line. There is nothing to stop a vehicle swerving into this 'so called' protected area - and they often do.
    I am all for a decent cycle lane network but at present this country just doesn't do the job properly. Compared with the present network being extended up the west coast of Scotland and including Oban and Fort William, or some of the continental systems England is not even at the starting blocks.
     
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  5. Jaws

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    Could not agree more !
     
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    our local cycle lane got ridiculed in the press a few years ago when it opened, all 50yards of it. it was put in place to protect cyclists from traffic on a new mini roundabout, but rarely gets used as it means the cyclist has to dismount and cross the road rather than just pedal around. problem is theres no room for 2 lanes on the roundabout and anything bigger than a small car needs all the space to get round. lorries and busses regularly clip the signs or mount the curb and drive on the plants. A stupid bit of road planning that should be replaced by traffic lights.

    back to cycle lanes though, if a safe properly designed one is supplied they should be used for the safety of all road users
     
  7. chaser

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    Cars and bikes should be separated where possible for their own safety , I would never ride a bike on a busy road, it would scare me to death
     
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    Not sure if you are a cyclist but I would guess that you have not straddled a cycle for some years. Great theory of yours but in practice it dont work.

    Cyclists would know that pedestrians tend to walk in cycle lanes cars park across cycle lanes and lanes stop and start at regular intervals to name just a few.

    Motorists don't own the roads neither do cyclists or pedestrians, they have to exist safely together. Just a bit of common sense is all that is needed by all.
     
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    I agree wine are far from perfect and appreciate that some are a joke but on a busy road with cycle lanes surely it should be compulsory. The Highway Code is so outdated in some areas and should be vigorously updated to suit todays roads.

    That aside if I had hit him it would have needed a good witness to defend me I believe. Some cyclists are a danger to us all, I have seen them on B & C roads cut the corners on opposite side of road, if a vehicle was coming the other way the it would have been serious.

    By the way I cycle and also ride a 50cc scooter so not having a go at cyclists Par Say.

    :thumb:

    If No then please state why as some have, in fact just voice any opinion
     
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  10. chaser

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    Motorists don't own the roads neither do cyclists or pedestrians, they have to exist safely together. Just a bit of common sense is all that is needed by all.


    No argument , I said for their own safety nowt to do with rights to be there, no matter whose at fault, fall off a bike under a car and you are probably dead
     
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    We always use cycle lanes where they are available but agree that this country has made very little provision.

    We hardly ever use our bikes at home because the cycle lane provision in our area of Middlesbrough is pathetic at best.

    The local council has (or, at least, had) a cycling officer who had plenty of ideas but his budget was tiny. It would be easy to make pavements on many of the routes into town dual use (as they are wide enough) but councillor members have no interest in doing so, so officers are unable to proceed.

    The cyclist in the OP, though, will deserve the damage to his bike (and, maybe himself) if he continues to cycle in such an irresponsible manner.
     
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  12. Carol

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    We cycle quite a lot while out in the van, the times we come across cars parked in the cycle lane or the cycle lane just disapear, Hubby often ask's where are we supposed to disapear to.

    It would be unfair to say we do not have good cycle ways, we do but they are the dedicated ones on old railway lines etc, and great for a relaxing ride.

    Having said that the cycle roads on main roads etc really do need a lot of updating before they could be made compulsory.
     
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    I do use cycle lanes when appropriate, but I voted No because once you make cyclists always use cycle lanes then it is a short step to banning cyclists from roads.

    I have always believed there are bad cyclists, drivers and yes pedestrians.

    The road is to be shared by all and everyone should use them with care and attention.
     
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    Ah yes, common sense, I remember it well. Something everyone used to have but sadly no longer common.
     
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    I would never restrict my £1000 pound road bike to using just cycle lanes.

    The quality of them is appalling.

    Plus Im a cyclist, the rules of the road don't apply to me anyway. :Wink:
     
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    Hi Carol
    Have you tried the new link across the marshes to Burton? From the Quay docks follow the cycle path across the wooden railway bridge, head through Zone 3 on the industrial park past Toyota head to the rifle ranges and cross a brand new boardwalk bridge about 1/4 mile long, follow cycle path to Burton, we went last Sunday and by coincidence arrived outside The Harp on Burton marshes just as it opened at 12 o clock:thumb:, nice ride, about 7 miles from the docks:thumb:
     
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    I used to be a very keen cyclist.

    100 miles a day, 8 or 10 hours in the saddle was unremarkable.

    Now, my two oldest kids are asking to go on cycle trips and the very thought terrifies me.

    There are so many teenage kids thinking they're dead gangsta screaming around with the windows down and the system up, HGV drivers who think that it's a sign of weakness to ever take their foot off the accelerator or to stay on their own side of the solid white line, innumerable purblind owld gimmers incompetently driving huge white glassfibre boxes.

    The roads are seriously scary places these days and cyclists are the least of our worries.
     
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    I voted no because I cycle most days and believe me, all I want to do is get away from traffic, most of which is happy to overtake me without steering :Eeek:

    However, the cycle lanes next to roads in my town are rubbish surface full of parked cars and even a caravan!!, so I'll take my chances with the traffic.

    When the cycle route goes away from roads, that is different altogether and I use these a lot.

    Check out http://www.sustrans.org.uk/ncn/map/information/national-cycle-network

    I did a ride in Scotland last month, Edinburgh to Glasgow and the route followed the Union Canal and it was fantastic!, no traffic for 3 days, brilliant.

    On a different topic, do we think it should be compulsory for cars to go in BUS lanes?

    Andy :Wink:
     
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    NO, Cycle lanes are ok if your having a bimble, but if you want to go anywhere fast or are on a training ride then they are hopeless, I dought if Bradley uses em:Wink:
     
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    The title states "Cycle lanes should they be used?"

    To clarify the question......

    If provided and it is on your designated route.....should Cycle lanes be used?
    This question was not related to ....Non route taken.... Sorry if question confused you. :thumb:
     
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