Converted to LED Lighting

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  1. Dude

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    Just converted all the 12v lights in the RV to 48 LED 'light boards', what a difference in lighting and the power drop is negligable, I needed 23 seperate LED's and they did not come with the correct adaptor so I had to modify the bulbs and solder the connectors to the filaments to get them working, next step is the HID conversion on the headlights, I'm doing this properley with a projector conversion in a light with a clear lens.
     
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    One of my winter projects is to upgrade our lighting in our old girl but have struck a bit of a conundrum, perhaps you can help us, What is the brightest, warm or cold? as regards to L E D s
     
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    Hi rangitira not sure if this is correct but the guy who supplied mine ( ebay- china ) said the warm white where the brightest - Not fitted them yet ( 21 leds per bulb ):Rofl1: but at £2 a bulb inc p and p I won't have lost much if they prove to be crap :Rofl1:
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    We have warm white in the directional spots and bright white in the ceiling lamp. Warm white is definately a softer light, bright white is more like a flourecsent light in my experience.
     
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    I fitted LEDs in my current 'van and my last one. We tried the cold light versions but didn't like them and the dealer allowed me to swap them.

    We now find that the best combination is warm LEDs in the living area and cold in the bathroom. I find cold light is that bit better and brighter for things such as shaving but, in the habitation area, the warm light is much more friendly and relaxing.
     
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    I hope you mean "power used is negligible" otherwise there's something wrong.

    You should have dropped the power used by 90%.

    I don't know if it makes a huge difference to an RV with the mass of batteries but it sure does to the Euro MHs with just one battery.

    I must say I hate HID because that are so bright and so focussed, that's fine until a car hits a bump then we get it right between the eyes and it hurts. Probably an RV won't bounce like that.
     
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    Cold white is very stark so seems brighter. Warm is close to normal incandescent bulbs in looks.

    Don't be afraid to fit extra LEDs to give better coverage than original, at about 90% power saving you can double up if you wish and still save shed loads of power. What I am saying is the original lighting wasn't necessarily "right" but a combination of cost and power consumption.
     
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    These are a very 'cold' light, bit of a shock at first, thought I was in a fridge:Cool::Cool:
     
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    No I think I'm right as the power drop when they are switched on is negligable as in not a lot, if I had said power used difference is negligable you would indeed be correct:Tongue1:
     
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    Personally, I have just removed all the LEDs from my van. The previous owner went mad with them. I've put back lovely crinkleglassed flourescents and it feels much cosier with a more diffused light. When on EHU I use a standard lamp which makes it definitely feel like home from home :)

    Not yet had any problem with using too much electric. The Habitation battery stays pretty well topped up from the solar panel on the roof.

    Happy New Year . .

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    Dude, Were all the 48 bulbs within the RV's habitation area or do they also include external 12v bulbs?

    Which bulbs in your RV did you replace with LED's and from where did you acquire the LED's?

    I'm sure this information will help others also contemplating changing their 12v RV bulbs to LED's :thumb:

    Mick
     
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    The bulbs I replaced are the dual 12v lighting and over counter lights, the bulbs used in these are a 21W 'Tail Light' as you can imagine in total I have about 18 21w bulbs going so the power draw is quite a lot, I was not willing to pay $20 per board to replace each 21W bulb, I got mine from E.Bay

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320600803382&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    But as I said the adaptors do not fit the large tail light bulb holder so I had to break the glass on the bulbs and attach the red and black wires to either side of the filament mount, the red does have to go to +ve etc by soldering then heat shrinking after, it is a cold ligh but great for seeing what you are doing, it can be toned down slightly by using opaque lenses. I only tend to use the lights for doing things that actually require a lot of light, we have a 40" motorised LED TV and when thats on the lights are off (im just building the box with motor in it today).
     
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    Dude,

    I replaced ALL the 16 under cabinet / ceiling lights that contained 21watt bayonet bulbs with these from http://www.atenlighting.co.uk

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    I like the look and price of those you bought but I have one question, what exactly did you use to stick them into the light housing?

    As you can see the LED's I bought are only 9 on a circuit board and wire to a bayonet bulb base.

    I used the double sided pads from Halfords to stick number plates on, now normally these are great, when I used them on our last caravan I nearly had to break the number plate to remove it when we sold the caravan, however when used to secure the 9LEDs they become unstuck from the inside of the underside light housing after a day or two :Sad:

    Mick
     
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    Dude,

    What did you use to secure your 48 LED's in the light housing?

    Have they remained in place and how long is it since you fitted them and what exactly was it you used?

    Cheers

    Mick
     
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    They came with some pretty decent double sided tape that seems to hold them fine, even if they came down and sat on the lens it would not be a problem as they do not get hot, even better would be to use the thick white double sided tape used to hold perspex number plates on, I used the 48 LED ones because sometimes I like a lot of light and did not want the chance of needing more, strangely a mate said it looked more homely but the light is a lot more stark, I like it but its not to everyones taste, the ones in the states for $20 come in a warm and cool white. I have changed every bulb inc the 2 external ones, in the 4 spotlights I just used a small LED side light bulb, what with the LED TV ive gone LED mad, the TV is strange evrything looks like its filmed on a very good cam corder even Blu Ray, you do get used to it but it is very strange compared to Plasma.

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