Conflict of GTW

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  1. Rockingdodge

    Rockingdodge Read Only Funster

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    The plate on my Kontiki 640L states a GTW of 4600 and a GVW of 3400 giving available towing weight of 1200 but the Ducato manual gives a maximum towing weight of 1600.
    Which is the legal weight?
     
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    the one on the plate....

    what year is your van.....mines a 640L on a 2.8 ducato and i have two plates..
    the original fiat plate and the alko convertion plate.

    it seem strange yours is so low when all ducato models from our era where 5500 train and 3500 gross.

    my last 640L was 3500kg on a 2.5 ltr ducato and that also had a train of 5500kg
     
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    Hi Pappa,

    Mine was registered in March '97.
    It uses a Ducato 14 TD SWB chassis which, in the manual, gives a towable weight of 1600

    The Swift plate and the Alco plate both give a max of 3400 and 4600 giving a towable weight of 1200, whereas the Fiat plate gives 3200 and 4800 giving 1600.

    I think I am going to be rather close to the mark with anything more than a Smart twofor.

    As mine uses the MC34XA Alco chassis designed for 3400 total weight I am confused as to where the GTW of 4600 comes from as the Alco chassis manual gives Permitted towed load of 1600 and a Max permitted gross train weight of 4800.

    This totally confuses me not that its difficult to do that. :Smile:

    Maybe if anyone from Swift is lurking they might like to clarify??

    It would be nice to know whether there is any upgrade route to increase the payload and towable weight.

    Regards

    Roger
     
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    it is confusing and i dont have an answer.

    mine was also a 97/98 but was 3500kg and 5500kg respectively.
     

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    Hi Roger,

    Motorhomes are Multi Stage Build Special Purpose Vehicles, e.g. the cab is a Fiat Ducato (Stage 1), the rear chassis is an Alko conversion (Stage 2), Swift (Stage 3). The Swift and Alko Plate read the same, In any Multi Stage Built vehicle the last stage plate fitted is the legal plate, a 1200kg tow limit in this case.

    With regards to you second post may I ask you PM me the serial/VIN number of your Kon Tiki for me to look into.

    Thanks

    Dave
     

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