Comparison Of The Noza Tec Truck Sat Nav And The Garmin Camper 760 Lmt-d.

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  1. GJH

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    As we possess both devices I decided to use our recent three week trip to Lincolnshire & East Anglia (knowing that we would be using a mixture of roads) to compare their performance. Not a fully scientific test, more a hands-on user experience.

    Software.
    The two devices, not surprisingly, have differences in the user setup options and the map displays. Both are reasonably easy to use with the degree of learning that would be expected with a tool of this type.

    The Garmin tends to use smaller roads more readily than the Noza Tec, a factor which is probably due to the fact that the Noza Tec software has overriding defaults rather than using the vehicle dimensions input. I had noticed on a previous trip that it ignored a perfectly usable road with a 7.5 tonne weight limit even though the vehicle profile weight was 3.5 tonnes. It appears that the Garmin, being a Camper edition, is more accurately oriented to leisure vehicles and the actual dimensions input.
    Having said that, both devices route via roads which might be uncomfortable for some drivers. They will use bus routes (which are obviously wide enough for a motorhome) but some bus routes in more rural areas run along narrow roads which can be a challenge especially when vehicles are parked at the roadside and/or large oncoming vehicles are met. It is always a good idea, in an unfamiliar area, to do a bit of preparation and checking in advance if possible (using the Philip's Navigator Camping and Caravanning Atlas or Google Maps for instance).

    The projected arrival time displayed by the Noza Tec tended to be more accurate than that of the Garmin. That is something which seems peculiar to Garmin devices as I had noticed a similar “optimism” with a previously owned car sat nav.

    Both devices offer free lifetime map updates but experience has shown that the Noza Tec ones are not 100% reliable (something being explored with the supplier). The Garmin also offers lifetime traffic reports.

    Hardware.
    The Garmin has a screen which is more readable in bright sunlight, presumably the result of specific design rather than use of a general purpose tablet as with the Noza Tec.

    The Noza Tec is much slower in picking up satellites than the Garmin.

    Conclusion.
    To an extent it is a matter of personal preference as both devices are perfectly usable if their peculiarities (or features) are taken into account. The Noza Tec certainly wins on price. The Garmin is rather less value if one has to pay the RRP rather than a much lower offer price.

    As we have invested in both devices then it does come down to personal choice in our case and we will be using the Garmin as first choice.
     
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    I've been in touch with the supplier about the maps as the current downloadable Truck and Common sets are the same (no ".ftr" truck specific file included):
    and received a quick reply:
    I copied the four files over (version United_Kingdom_2014.Q4_150302) and deleted the four old UK ones, leaving the .ftr file as it was. I then planned a route and it appears to work (avoided a narrow road as I would wish).
     
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    +++++
    The projected arrival time displayed by the Noza Tec tended to be more accurate than that of the Garmin. That is something which seems peculiar to Garmin devices as I had noticed a similar “optimism” with a previously owned car sat nav.
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    Funnily enough was loading a number of routes pre-prepared in Garmin BaseCamp onto Garmin 760 just a few minutes ago and most (if not all) have reduced travel time on the sat nav when compared to BaseCamp!

    Compared a couple of the route directions on both and, albeit the wording is different, they appear to be showing the same road routing.

    Can only assume this is as a result of me having set up individual customized road type speed options in BaseCamp which can't be done (or I haven't found out how to yet) in the sat nav.

    Not greatly concerned as I'll be basing journey times on the BaseCamp data and the sat nav should adjust accordingly throughout the journey.

    ps good comparison review.(y)
     
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    Interesting review, and I'm not sure the Dezl 760 takes much notice of vehicle dimensions when in the motorhome mode. Mine is set at 4 tonnes, 8ft wide 8m long and 3.2 metres high.
    Driving through Rouen a couple of months ago, it insisted on directing me down an underpass with a 2.5 m height limit!
    I didn't go.........
    I couldn't get on with my Noza though
     
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    The Garmin arrival time accurate its just your driving to slow and it can't handle it:)

    (that was a joke)
     
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    that was the main reason for returning the Noza Tec.. compared with the Garmin it was dull and barely readable in bright light.. even with it's sunshade.. never test drove it as it didn't pass the first test.. ie.. Could I see it..
     
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    Very much a matter of personal preference I think, Jim. My comments were based on real world tests (even if not scientific :)) and whilst the Garmin is more readable than the Noza Tec my own experience is that it is more than barely readable.
    Seeing comments in the last few days got me thinking about whether anything could be done to prevent sun glare. Yesterday I bought an iPad Mini screen protector from Poundworld and cut it down to fit. I intend testing it out on our next trip (hopefully next weekend).
     
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    I'm quite happy with my Noza Pick as it has got me down to Benidorm with no problems, and I was able to see the screen ok without the sun screen.

    John.
     
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    I only say as I found Graham... . and while I never tested it's navigation prowess I tested it in a real life situation.. ie in the van..

    Disappointed with the screen, I thought at first it was just too bright for it , so I switched on the Garmin to compare.. The difference was startling.. I decided the Nozatec wasn't for me.. would rather pay the premium for the Garmin...

    Others are clearly satisfied.. It's not an argument or debate .. no right or wrong.. just personal findings.. read reviews of any product and you will find people with varying, even opposite views ..
     
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    Many thanks for this Graham, I had been considering purchasing one of these chinese truck jobbies but on the basis of your review and other comments I'll leave it for now. I currently use Co Pilot live on my mobile phone which works well and although it has its foibles (don't all sat navs?) it has never let me down yet and only cost £30 four years ago (currently operating on third device since purchase.).

    D.
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me to find that the .ftr file contains your truck dimensions and features that you have entered and so would not need replacing ?
     
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    This weekend I used my new Garmin Camper 760 for the first time,but in the car.I was impressed with the way it told me 'you need either of the two right hand lanes' at motor way junctions.and by the way it went into 'night mode' as I entered a tunnel-and back to daylight mode as I came out.
    Also impressed by the traffic info 'light traffic build up 30 miles ahead' That was Hereford,and the 15 min delay predicted was spot on.
     
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    I also think we have yet to test the definition of 'lifetime' Graham. Software/Equipment suppliers may well have a different one to us. I think Dave's CoPilot could out live others 'lifetimes', though I appreciate its not a large vehicle system.
    Interesting comparisons, personally I only ever use any arrival time as a guide, especially with the state of our road network at times.
     
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    Just road tested the 760 Camper over the last few days after picking one up cheap at the NEC.

    First impressions were good on Saturday and led to a stress free drive from the NEC to the Peak District

    Today however was not so good with some routing down pretty narrow roads when a short 2 mile alternative route would have kept me on decent width A roads.

    On the way home, it picked a route through Sheffield city centre when an alternative route to skirt around the centre and on to the M18 was a much easier and faster choice for a larger vehicle and only a few miles more

    I really wish the sat nav manufacturers would have 'city centre' as one of the avoidance options.

    It's better than the 6 year old basic Garmin it replaced but on today's performance not great, I'll reserve ultimate judgement until I've used it some more
     
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    Exactly,my Garmin Nuvi was about 6yrs old and died last month,so I bought the 760.
    It was just like when I changed a 6yrs old BMW 3 series for a new one-so many advances in the technology (y)
     
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    I'm looking to buy one ... how cheap was cheap.. ?
     
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    Aldi in Hexham currently have the 760 camper reduced from £199 to £179, just waiting to pounce if they reduce it further.
     
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    Arrival time on my three sat navs are always totally different TomTom is always seriously optimistic, and the Snooper is always very pessimistic. I usually reckon it will be somewhere between the two.
     
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    It's a downloadable file in some sets, Mike. I believe it contains truck specific information such as weight limits rather than user input data.
    On the basis of the way the Camper 760 works in those aspects I bought a Nuvi 2569 to use in the car and gave away my TomTom Go 820.
    "Lifetime" is certainly an indefinite term. When I bought the TomTom referred to above I wanted to give my old Garmin to one of my sons but to keep the lifetime maps option I had to keep the registration in my name and he brings it round 4 times a year for the map updates. By contrast the TomTom lifetime deal is tied to the devise, not the purchaser, so I was able to de-register it and give it to a friend who then registered to receive map updates. I don't know if Garmin have changed their policy.
    Check with your local Aldi Jim. I recall somebody posting some time ago that his local store didn't have any but were able to get one sent from their HQ as they didn't sell out in some places (like Hexham as Stewart mentioned).
    On our journeys to and from the Lincoln show 3 weeks ago I had the Garmin Camper 760 and Noza Tec running side by side again. The Noza Tec was more accurate (almost spot on) than the Garmin (very optimistic). The Nuvi 2569 was also very optimistic on a trip to Derbyshire in the car 2 weeks ago. I had noticed a similar effect with my previous Garmin device so I contacted Garmin support a week ago but haven't received a satisfactory answer yet. However, after receiving a half baked answer 6 days ago I had a look at the settings and switched on the Travel History, which is supposed to learn from the way in which you drive. The Nuvi 2569 was almost spot on gong to Birmingham and back the other day so maybe that is the answer. It will be interesting to see how the Noza Tec and Camper 760 compare on our trip next weekend.
    The problem sometimes is that there may only be seconds in it when choosing the fastest route. Good idea about avoiding city centres though.
     
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    It just struck me that the Camper 760 has a "Custom Avoidances" feature so it might be possible to define particular city centres to avoid in that way. I haven't tried it though.
     
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