Clutch problem Transit 2001 2.4 TD

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  1. Billy23

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    The clutch on the Transit has dropped down to about half way but is still drivable. When I start from cold I cannot get it into first gear, if I start with it in First already the MH does not move (drag forward) but if I lift the clutch a fraction it moves off.

    It gradually started to get worse as I drove home off my last tour, the clutch does not slip when pulling away.
    I am guessing master cylinder but I may be wrong, the fluid (which seems to be brake and clutch) is at proper level.

    Can anybody suggest what the problem may be.

    Regards

    Bill
     
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    Bump
     
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    Sounds like it could be the seals in the master cylinder, have you tried bleeding it?
    Is there a slave cylinder on it?
     
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    Thanks for that suggestion, I will check it out.(y)
     
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    Is there any improvement if you "pump" the clutch pedal a few times and just wondered what your mileage is ?
     
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    Just nipped out and pumped it but it didn't make any difference. It has 65.500 klms on the clock and is a 2001.
     
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    There is a master & slave cylinder on the Transit. To check the Master cylinder you need to check the back of the clutch pedal for signs of fluid leakage, then look under the bonnet at the master cylinder itself for signs of leaks.
    If its the slave cylinder thats on its way out, you may notice a small leak from the clutch bell housing area. If the slave cylinder is on the way out, you'll need to have the gearbox removed to repair it. Then when you've got all of that stuff apart you might as well install a new clutch kit. It'd be worth getting some quotes from clutch specialists as they tend to be cheaper than ordinary garages.

    Good luck...Robert.
     
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    Oh well, it was worth a try. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to help (y)
     
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    You most likely have an internal slave cylinder on that. To change it the gearbox needs to come out - while you are paying for that amount of labour it would pay to have a new clutch fitted at the same time
     
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    the rearwheel drive ones at that sort of age had a tendency to bend the clutch arm its still a box out job though
     
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    Thank you all for your (expensive) ideas.:) I will prepare for the worst.:(
     
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    Check the pedal area first. I'm not familiar with the pedal mechanics on that vehicle but non of the symptoms point to hydraulics or collapsed release arm. Make sure the pedal return spring is intact, that the pedal itself hasn't bent or deformed, and that the master cylinder (if mounted in the pedal area, hasn't become displaced due to loose or failed fixings. Try lifting the pedal before use - if that helps it's either a corroded master cylinder or (my favourite) a failed pedal return spring.
     
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    If its a RWD transit the slave cylinder is plastic and on the side of the gearbox and comes out very easily by turning it anticlockwise I think quarter of a turn by hand. It is often removed to top up the gearbox as the filler is behind it. It is also not uncommon for the release arm to break in which case it would be a box out job. Don't know the system on the front wheel drive versions. (hate front wheel drive vans).
     
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    Superb, we live & learn. This is why I think this forum is worth its weight in gold & its well worth the up & coming price increase.

    Robert.
     
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    Just thought that I would post to say that I have had the clutch problem fixed. I took it in to my regular garage and they found that the clutch pump (as they call it) was broken (image attached, I hope) I looks as if the plunger has broken in the cylinder. So they changed the "Pump" - I think it is the master cylinder- it is just behind the clutch pedal, and that solved the problem, while it was in the garage they did a full service, replaced the windscreen wipers and put in a replacement bulb. Total bill 235 Euros which I thought was a result, thank goodness it didn't happen in UK.

    I would like to thank: @Ranger @tonyidle @mitzimad @Landy lover @ambulancekidd @jockaneezer @daveandsan for all the help given. Maybe this post will, in the future help others.

    Cheers
    Bill
     

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