Cheap camper, i mean cheap???

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  1. waynesworld

    waynesworld Read Only Funster

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    Hi all, Now i have a LWB pick up which i am/was going to build a demountable, now the thing is, i am a pain with swapping and changing my mind with my projects so now i am thinking on looking at a old camper, coach built type, luton body, not a van as i would like to have a bit more room if i am to do this, i can get around £1000 together for a camper project, yes it will be a project which i am fine about, i can do all the work needed to it myself so no silly labour fee`s to pay. I like the idea of me having the UMM pick up ( multi purpose vehicle aswell, ) with a demountable but then i have always wanted a camper van, i have in the past looked at the Bedford CF ones aswell as the transit type, iu know these as goo work horses with good engines if they are the diesel type, but what others could i look at that have the same reliability as the CF and Transit, i am not up much on other makes and now as they are getting old i would like to get a van that parts are fairly easy to come by. The UMM is getting hard to get bits for and therefore expensive.

    Also i would like it to be ready for next year, would you say definatley not, or give it a go.

    All best

    wolly:BigGrin:
     
  2. bigfoot

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    You will meet the motorhomers worst nightmares damp and rust.
    Unless you can find a front end right off. Or an old caoch built on a mot failure chassis which hasn't got damp or rust.
    Happy hunting.
     
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    For a grand or less you're going to be looking at buckets of poo like these:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bedford-C...mpers_Caravans_Motorhomes&hash=item231bd9a96a
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dodge-Com...mpers_Caravans_Motorhomes&hash=item2c644f7f6f
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PROJECT-C...mpers_Caravans_Motorhomes&hash=item3cc46c1e6e

    And they'll quite possibly go over a grand but then you've got to get it home, sort out all the crap and neglect from the last thirtyish years etc. Never mind damp, most of these will come with running water.................running down the walls! The frame of the coachbuilt WILL be rotten and require major repair work. If you start off with a bag of sh!t and paint it a pretty colour it will still be a bag of sh!t so you're going to have to spend some serious money on remedial work. Several years ago I completely re-skinned the coachbuilt body of our then motorhome (Autohomes Highwayman) and updated the interior with new kitchen sink and hob and a complete rewire and I spent nine months of my spare time on it and over £3K, and that was buying materials at trade prices!

    Sorry if this sounds negative but you ain't gonna get into motorhoming for a grand.

    D.
     
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    Number 1 son bought a Bedford CF (much better condition than those which Dave pointed out) for about a grand last year as a project. He reckons he will have spent another 4 grand by the time it is properly usable. That includes parts, professional restoration of bodywork and a fair bit of his (and his mate's) time.

    He knew it would take that sort of effort and cost so was ready for it. As Dave says, a grand is too small a budget.
     
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    Heh Wolly seen some very spritely old Transits and CF in Morroco still going well......:driving2::notworthy:


    nowhere else though:Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    Oi Dave, there my vans !! lol

    Waynes world, listen to what Dave said, hes right.

    I think a better option would be buying a van to convert, Use your first money to get the best van you can. Then over time start to put water/electric/windows/etc in it. Try the self build forum for ideas and some stunning results.

    That way you can add to it as time goes on and you get a few quid together for each bit. Easier to save up £200 for a window than it is to get together 4k or so for something that you might have a chance with.:thumb:
     
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    You will definitely have a project with a grand budget! More than you will ever believe.....campers 'scrap' value is around 3 grand, with will buy you a nice damp dog you can lavish anoher few grand on making it look like a old dog that suffers damp.

    If that is your budget, and there is no judgement on here at all, just honest answers as peoples budgets vary - I would suggest you find an old demountable body and work with that. You can find the odd ones on ebay that need work for around a grand - it would give you a base to work with....and you can still drive the truck until the body is ready!

    There is nothing I can suggest that isn't small or will cost more than that to get to a liveable standard without a self build, which will go into thousands. Unfortunately, even a mostly dry, reasonable looking 25 year old van will still fetch between 8 and 12 grand.

    Whatever you choose, make sure it is dry as possible - as damp is absolutely evil and will destroy the whole experience and fun you can have.
     
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    hi wayne . look for an old caravan . get it lifted on to the pickup back . ideally with out the axle being left on . hopefully this might give you an idea .
    you would possibly require a smaller caravan. this was on a merc 207 van .the back got cut off and fitted where it fitted .make the join how ever you can. my mate reckoned this only cost afew hundred quid at the time.
     

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    this one looked like he reversed to far on a caravan site:Rofl1:
     
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    thats another way of saving a few bob . mind dont let the campsite owner see you do it. ha ha .
    but it saves a few shilling. not hard to do and caravans are cheap. there was a firm that all it did a few years ago was convert in this fashion. far cheaper and more luxuriuos than over inflated m,home prices.
     
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    Well i guess that campers are expensive no matter what age and condition, and more to fix up, thanks for the replies, it was expected in a way, just wanted some better idea from you on what i should expect, i have priced up a self build demountable for under a few grand to go on my pick up, and all to be done over the time, the biggest layout is the first part being the shell around £800 all in, can easy get an old an C,van to rip out for the fit out, i am all set to build it once a few things are sorted like the build area in the garden, ash base at the minute, i am going to flag it soon.

    I have seen some of the chassis cabs with C`vans added on the back, some are hilarious, some not bad.

    I used to have an Acty pick up but sold it when i was in bad times, that one for £500 a few have linked to is cheap as hell, the pick up alone is worth that, i would snap that up now if i had a few more notes spare.

    Ok i will stick with the demountable for my pick up, in a way be daft no to as i can use it work aswell as holidays and fishing trips. Another thing is with building my own it will be dry and solid and i will know what i have so no nasty things popping up unexpectedly:thumb:

    Thanks for the help folks, i will keep updated when i get the build started. I am just doing the MOT work this week, dam steering box has fractured the chassis so it needs replating and new steering box mount to be made.

    wolly:BigGrin:
     
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    OK who beat me to it and bought the Honda Acty? I was going to buy that, do it up and make a fortune in easy profit, enough to retire on perhaps:Rofl1:.

    D.
     
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    The other option not mentioned was to buy an old coachbuilt type ambulance and a scrap caravan for parts to fit it out with. The bodyshell on the ambulance will generally be superior to any MH and the mechanics very well maintained. Seen quite a few done to an excellent standard and if done well you would never know of its previous life

    one to avoid though is the ex local authority tag axle day centre busses as the chassis lets them down making them money pits.
     
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    keep an eye on ebay,last year i bought a perfectly dry demountable that was fitted to a mitsubishi l200 single cab pick up .old but VERY DRY ,all there and working, could easily have been used ,and then modernised over time as funds become available.this i have since sold to a man from hull(i think)so keep looking they are out there.steve.:thumb:
     
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    yes you can if your lucky get a secondhand demount . i have had a couple .used one on my vw pickup. the other a bit of tidying then sold it . both suntrekkers .but tyhey can fetch good money. these weigh about 750kg if my memory is right
     

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    the pics of vwalans demounts look just like the one i had,old but very useable,and i think good value.good luck with you quest.but personaly i would not like to hold my breath till another one comes along.steve.:thumb:
     
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