CCC Sites 2014 - fickle pricing

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  1. maz

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    Received an e-mail from the Camping & Caravanning Club today - extract below:

    We are no longer publishing fixed prices in Your Place in the Country. Instead, we are including a guide that lists 'from' and 'to' prices for each season, with Club Sites grouped into price bands to make comparison easier.

    The 'from' price is the base price that all bookings will start on and, if demand follows normal patterns, that is where it will stay. If demand changes for whatever reason - weather, events, or a big competitive deal - the price may change - down or up.


    Being someone who works to a budget, I'm not keen on this at all. Does it mean that if I've booked a site for one price per night, I might well end up having to pay more when I turn up? What if I decline to do so - do I lose my deposit and have to head off into the sunset looking for an alternative? :Sad:
     
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    Anyone booking will need to read the terms and conditions carefully.

    I would hate to pay for a holiday in full at £100 and then being asked to pay an extra £100 because they decided to put the prices up at the last minute.

    I wonder if you pay the highest price if they will give you a refund if they lower the price for others?
     
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  3. Chris

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    It looks a bit sneaky to me. I would think that if you book at a certain price then that is what you will pay.

    If not they will lose a lot of members - me included.
     
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    On the web site Here it says "Members can use these as a guide and they will then see the definitive price for their holiday when they go through the improved booking process, either online – where they will be guaranteed the best prices – or by calling the Club’s Contact Centre."

    The way I read that is that the price you agree when you book is the price you pay. You won't pay more if it goes up in the meantime but you won't pay less if it goes down.
     
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    In the past on here I have been very critical of ccc and threatened to cancel but must say we went to the lakes after Blackpool this last weekend and stayed at the Windermere club site on Monday night, just stopped on spec and was very pleasentlly surprised, we drew in and was charged £11.50 and we were shown where to go and left to park up on our own , no corner to the peg or facing in or out , please yourself, very pleasent staff and very satisfied:BigGrin:
     
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    That's how I read it. It's all smoke and mirrors though:

    1) They mention in the email about all the sites that will be cheaper for an adult compared with 2013, but that only applies when the new pricing is at the bottom of the band.

    2) Currently hard-standing + EHU, grass + EHU or just hard-standing costs £3.80. Next year grass + EHU appears to be £3.85 but any hard-standing is £4.85 according to the PDF I downloaded.

    3) Price reductions are now for 60+ instead of 55+, but current members 55-59 can get their cards stamped and keep the reduction (not sure for how long).

    4) Children now cost 50% adult fees, which appears to be more, but family prices are supposed to be lower.

    5) They've added a "shoulder" (?) price band, between middle and high. If I read it correctly, it appears to replace some of the old middle price band and none of the higher.

    So, until we see what the special deals are that the sites will be offering throughout the year, I'm going to be cynical and say "stealth price rises".
     
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    I guess we will vote with our feet if this move turns out to be poor value for money, and if that is the case and enough members leave, maybe market forces will influence things. But......for the past year or so, membership numbers and users of club sites have been on the up, so what else should one expect from any profit making organisation?:Eeek:
     
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    Heads the 'club' wins tails you lose!
     
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    We've been members of the C&CC for a couple of years and have enjoyed a number of Meets and THSs at very good prices and with very friendly people. We've also used one or two CSs.

    We've never used main sites so I suppose not fully qualified to comment on prices. However, as a general observation, any business has to do the best it can (in the judgement of the managers) to further the interests of the owners (= members) as a whole.
     
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    It'll be interesting to see their financial results for 2013.

    2012 was, by their own admission, terrible thanks to the weather. The Camping In The Forest sites they took over a few years ago have never made a profit, and they raised the prices for those at the start of this year to such a degree that I stopped using them (they're even more solo-camper-unfriendly now :Angry:).

    The problem is, I can't throw a tantrum and go over to the CC, because when I tried to join them a few years ago they wouldn't have me! :Blush:

    I'm glad I got that extra battery and don't need EHU as much. Now I need to come up with a solution that means I don't need their hard-standing in the winter...
     
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    we have a one price policy, no extras for dogs, awnings, towcar no extras for time of year or school holidays one price fits all.
    £60 a day all in, less funsters discount comes out at £7:Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    Of course! From the Heritage Motor Museum... :thumb:
     

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    I have to be in this club for the simple reason its run with the R A C and I cant get membership with R A C unless I am a member of ccc the R A C say my van is too long for their trucks and have to be towed by a large trucks that would hold a big caravan.my motorhome is 22 foot long.but its unlimited call outs make it well worth while.AA is far more expensive and have limited call outs of 5 over 5 then its £95 a time steve
     
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    Guess there's nothing to stop me monitoring prices up to 7 days before arrival date - then cancelling, reclaiming deposit and re-booking at the lower rate .......... :Wink:

    Edit: Oh apparently there is - as cancellation now has to be 30 days notice not 7.
     
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    Always been to expensive C C. Changed membership to C & C Club this year. Much friendlier campers and discount for us old uns. BUSBY:BigGrin:
     
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  16. maz

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    Getting progressively more p*ssed off with these changes. :Angry:

    In summer I can usually get away with being on grass but not in late autumn/winter. :Angry:

    As the 55+ concession looms on my horizon they move the goal posts! :Angry:

    Can't see me using CCC sites much next year. With midweek discount the CC sites are much better value - unless they also have 'beneficial' changes to counter-attack with. :RollEyes:
     
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    You could join ADAC for about €120.00...............they use the AA in UK and ADAC terms apply.............could be a saver.

    www.adac.de

    The terms and conditions are in our downloads section, translated to English.:thumb:
     
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    Interestingly, I see the C&CC age concession reduction will be 'up to 25%' in 2014, whereas in 2013 it has been 'up to 30%'!

    So not only is the concession age being increased from 55 to 60, but the size of reduction will be reduced by 5%. :Angry:

    And, as has already been mentioned 'hardstanding' will increase in price by £1.05 next year. Like others, we're happy to be on grass when it's feasible - but obvioously at this time of year, through the winter (those sites that remain open) and early season, it's frequently not possible - and in any case the sites won't allow it. :Angry:

    All in all, at this stage having had a quich look through the proposed pricing arrangements for 2014, I think many of us will be facing significant overall increases.

    And I have extremely mixed feelings about the 'flexible pricing concept' - think Ryanair - prices up and down, never quite sure where you are, with the organisation always having the upper hand.

    I know that all sounds a bit negative, but currently feeling slightly depressed. Have always been an enthusiast for the club up to now. Going to the trouble of producing 5 videos featuring the DG explaining the rationale, just makes me even more uneasy. Sign of the times I guess, but it doesn't feel quite so 'friendly', as they'd like you to think. :Angry:

    Rant over...
     
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