canal, lake or ??

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  1. californiadreamer

    californiadreamer Read Only Funster

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    Hi there Funsters... I'm know from previous questions that you've been pretty helpful - so a new query to post... Does anyone know of sites with access to canoeing water? We've just bought an inflatable canoe and are bursting to try it out. We are total canoe novices so flat water with easy access is probably advisable.

    We are going to try C&CC at Keswick but would like to have some alternatives. We're in a 27' RV, so accessibility to the site for that is also a factor. And smaller sites or pub sites are preferable.

    So, there you have our latest conundrum.. can anyone help?

    Until now I always assumed it was possible to canoe on virtually any lake, canal or river. How ignorant I was! I now know, after many hours on t'internet, that England & Wales have the worst river/lake access in the world. We have joined the British Canoe Union which gives canal access, now need to find sites on canals/lakes or flat rivers... any other advice for paddling novices would be appreciated too...
     
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    Have you considered some of the Scottish Lochs ?
     
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    Thanks Spiritsfree and Scotjimland... how quick a reply was that..!

    Yes, we have, and are, considering Scotland - where the water accessibility is much better but that will have to be for the longer trips - we were hoping to have some weekends and short breaks with our new toy.

    I have perused the UK Campsite listings but they don't have a heading for canoes or canals or lakes..
     
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    http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/uk-touring/22565-canal-lake.html#post273469

    this may sound like a wind up but its not looked into canoeing in england but most of the water is private and you need to get a license or the owners permission i said england because scotland was different by law.
     
  7. madbluemad

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    There's a campsite at Bala in North Wales that will take your mh and canoe. Cant remeber the name of it, google it.
    Jim
     
  8. gazz

    gazz Formerly "gazznhelz"

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    i also have an inflatable canoe, got it a few years back when i was at lake annecy (actually had one before, but that was a cheap one and poped it over a submerged tre, so got one with removable air chambers and a reinforced bottom)

    to be honet i have only used it once in england, actually scotland, parked up on a canal side carpark and went over an aquaduct on it,

    abroad there's tons of easy water sie cess and places to camp.

    but something i did do abroad when i wasnt able to camp right by the side of a lake or river, was take the canoe in it's bag to the water with my push bike, i did have a trailer for the push bike, but a carrier on the bike might do the job.

    then just unpack and inflate the canoe, lock the bike up, and go off for a paddle.

    i do keep thinking about joining the canoe camping group with the C&CC, but it seems they mostly do touring by canoe trips, i.e. start off at one place, and end up loads of miles down river, usually taking a few days and camping in a tent.
     
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    As an aside to this, I'd strongly recommend taking a look at this forum:

    http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/forum/forum.php

    They are extremely nice people and give a lot of help and advice.

    We have inflatable canoes, starting with a large Gumotex Palava, then a couple of Gumotex Juniors, now we've got a couple of Wetline kayaks. We have pretty much given up trying to use them in the UK - we don't have the spare time to get our money's worth out of joining the BCU and were only in it for the first year as we didn't bother after that. We did use the Juniors on the sea and they were great fun in the waves!!!

    Really though, we tend to use our kayaks only on holiday abroad, although we are hoping to do a good trip to Scotland later this year (weather permitting).

    I assume you've got some safety gear too? A life jacket, IMV, is essential (for any dogs too) - its surprising just how cold lakes and rivers can be even on a warm day and if you go overboard you can easily get disoriented or a case of cramp ... difficult to swim then believe me! We went over in scortching heat on the Ardeche a few years ago and were very thankful for the life jackets as we were soon tired from trying to swim.
     

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    Thanks once again for the replies everyone. Highwayman, that's a really good website and we'll be sure to download it onto the laptop.

    As I stated in my initial posting I have become aware of many of the issues surrounding water access but I don't think we'll give up so easily. We have joined the BCU which gives us the right to paddle on canals and certain rivers. Windermere, Derwentwater and Coniston are free to paddle and there are other inland lakes (manmade) which are available for a cost. All we need to do is find the appropriate campsites, I have already found several which are also Pub sites - so we'll have fun in the summer exploring those (I hope):BigGrin:

    We've also got the necessary buoyancy aids, paddle straps and wet bags. All we need now is the perfect site, some good weather and some nice flat water to practice on.:thumb:

    The inflatable weighs less than 20K and will be taken to New Zealand with us on our trip to see the family this winter. Hopefully we will have learned enough about paddling not to disgrace ourselves.:RollEyes:
     
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    We stopped on White Bear Marina at Addlington near Chorley,right on canal side,plenty of room for RV as our,s is 30ft.No problem with access and pub round corner plus takeaways as well,and its 16amp hook up.Hope this may be ok regards John and Carole:Smile:
     
  13. californiadreamer

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    Thanks John & Carole... that looks fairly interesting. Especially as we, like you, are lancastrians.. Just up the road from you in fact, near where the witches lived..:Smile:
     
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    There is a canoeing centre in Llangollen on the river Dee and we ofter see novices being taken to an area on the canal beyond the canal boats. There are 2 campsites but only one is on the banks of the canal.
    Lucille
     
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    Agreed:thumb: Superb forum and really helpfull people.:BigGrin:

    Minx. How do you find the Wetline?
    I'd like another infaltable but after a near divorce experience with a Sevylor some years ago, I'm very wary about which one to get! It had the "aquadynamics" of a busted shopping trolley with mind of its own!
    Id LOVE an Advanced Elements twin convertable but at 800 sheets plus, there's no way SWMBO will allow it!:Blush:
    The Palarva looks a tad too similar to my old Sevylor for comfort so that puts me off.
    I'm after a twin, that can also be used solo and the majority of paddles will be canals and close shore lakes.

    Cheers.:BigGrin:
     
  17. bailey

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    One of the best sites in Scotland is caravan club (Maragowan) right on the river then on to Loch Tay Magic as on other posts no restrictions in Scotland


    Bill
     
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    Zaskar..we have a Sevylor and it behaves a treat, you need a skeg (small rear rudder) to keep it straight and it will respond better.

    Anyone want my Sevylor? It will be for sale..sniff sniff..we are selling up & going fulltiming and a canoe is the last thing we need, space and weight thing.:thumb:
     
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    Cheers Manda. I know about the Skegs and believe they do help. unfortunately, my old sevylor was pre- skeg so it was a joy!

    Which Sevylor have you got?...........and whats it like at the bow?
    The problem with mine was that, although it had a pointed bow, the floor, just below the waterline at the bow was finished just like the end of an airbed, so although it looked pointed, below the waterline where it counts most, it was bulbous and used to "plough" the water rather than cut through it.........that made for dammed hard paddling!:Eeek:
     
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    Hi the camping and caravan club have a site at Devizes in Wlitshire which is next to the Kennet and Avon canal.
     
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