Camping & Caravan Club & Caravan Club

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  1. lynne7

    lynne7 Read Only Funster

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    Do other members find these two clubs expensive or is it just me? I am thinking of not renewing membership next year as I don't use them much at all. We hardly tour over here because of the campsite prices. Not only that they are usually in a field in the middle of nowhere, so unless you're towing a car or can ride a bike (afraid I can't) your stuck if there's no public transport. We both prefer touring France for a few weeks, using the Aires because they are usually in the villages and towns or just outside.
     
  2. vindiboy

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    I have just returned home from a CCC Rally at Bradford on Avon, £6 a night, bus stop outside the gate to Bath or the other way to Chippenham and Devises, site a short walk to the canal tow path, Sainsburys bus stopped outside the gate also, Bradford on Avon is a super town. Just starting is a CCC rally at Wareham, again the bus stop is nearby to Poole or Swanage, and just up the road is the Steam Railway to Corfe Castle and Swanage, fantastic value these Rallies I think.:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:
     
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    I also find the CC (don't know about CC&C) sites quite expensive. They are always good quality in nice locations, but prices are similar to commercial sites.

    Why can't a club, that is not out for a profit, beat the prices of a commercial site?
     
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    Well if they don't make a bit, how do they a) purchase and develop new locations and b) pay for repairs to the existing network?
     
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    Hi,

    horses for courses I think. I agree, that in your position being on a cl site miles from anywhere with no additional transport can be frustating and therefore membership doesn't give any benefits. However, having a toad we like the cl site system, it is cheap, quiet and generally in the countryside where we like to be. For us it represents extremely good value for money and we more than save the membership cost. French Aires are ideal and if this is your preferred and most commonly used then membership would be expensive. Depends if you use the clubs' other facilities like ferry booking, insurance etc.
     
  6. 1_man_and_his_dob(lo)

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    My thoughts exactly...surely the club is in it to make a profit?

    Being a newbie, I don't have much to compare the prices to, but on the whole I don't find them too bad...some C&CC sites seem to feel that they are more worthy and charge more, which at peak time puts them out of my range. I do make use of their showers, etc. since my on-board resources are limited.

    I can appreciate that somebody who doesn't need these or EHU might feel things are steep. We'd all like to pay as little as possible....for example, why am I paying the same as 2 people who arrive in a much bigger MH? Ooops...I'm back on the "let's put a meter for everything" rant again :Smile:
     
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    just canceled my caravan club membership but have continued the C&CC membership as find it quite handy - especially as hubby gets concession rates now!!
     
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    Neil you sound like me! Some of the rallies are brilliant value for money ... especially if you divide it by two .... A week for twenty five pounds each. But for us solo travellers it is a week for fifty pounds and I don't use as much water or toilet facilities etc... but I can't see a reduction ever. Hotels even charge us extra.

    I have renewed my CCC membership but not the CC. Does anyone know where we stand with our van insurance and Green Flag cover if it is through the CC if we are no longer with them, when it is already mid year.
     
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    We are members of the Caravan Club and have just renewed our membership. Because we are away with Emily most weekends at Sailing events we like to know that the site we are on have lovely shower facilities and a launderette as sailing gear is smelly if left and we need to wash and it dry for the next day. Do we find it expensive? No, because we compare it to what we used to spend on hotels so we find it cheap. We could wild camp but sometimes it's good for Emily to have a play area to chill out in after a hard days sailing, saying that after last weekend WAVEBOARDS are banned because she fell off it and fractured her elbow, so this weekend in Lymington was cancelled :cry:

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    Well, not to my thinking. A club is there for the benefit of it's members, not to make a profit.

    Yes, they do need to cover cost like maintenance, but so does a commercial site.
     
  11. vindiboy

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    I don't think CCC club sites are too expensive to stay on ,especially if like us you can claim age concession on charges, the sites are very well run, have rules to be kept so everyone is happy, IE quiet after 11pm pick up your dog pooh 5mph on site. dogs on leads etc. unlike some Commercial sites we have stayed on where drunks scream half the night and run amok. the facilities on club sites are second to none . It amazes me that people pay thousands of pounds for Motorhomes and then expect to pay peanuts to use them. I love to wildcamp where I can and have just spent 110 nights in Spain France and Portugal doing just that ,we didn't use any sites at all, but I also like to use sites as and when it suits me and am prepared to pay the fees charged, you have to pay for quality and that's what you get on CCC sites, I dropped my membership of the CC as I was not using it, but I like to spend time in London and when I do we use Abbey Wood CC site and I usually rejoin the club there as it is cheaper as a member and a two week stay there pays for my membership.:thumb::thumb:
     
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    Hi,

    Before cancelling the CC&C its worth checking the offers they have on things like insurance, I never thought they would be able to beat the Internet but for us there 180 days away from home house insurance, was the best we could find, no conditions regarding getting people to check, just 180 days away at anytime and the price difference between a similar product that had conditions was at least more than the membership cost, so covered the cost on one purchase

    hope that makes sense.
     
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    Well I know commercial sites are there to make money, no-one has a problem with that. However a lot of em want their staff at the lowest ever possible rates for the largest number of hours and that sort of engenders Jobsworths, doesn't it? :Angry:

    But do commercial sites look for more land to build another site all the while, or do they just use the 'sheer' profit for their directors/shareholders to eg go to the Caribbean for their holidays? :Rofl1:

    I spose the daft thing here is we use mainly CL's and of course other than inspections I don't suppose they cost the Club a penny piece really, but I have to pay the club in order to have access to the CL's. :Doh: So I'm paying so that everyone else - including of course the non-members who use Club sites - can have fun in the bar/restaurant/pool at Seacroft !!
     
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    Not for profit means that all monies obtained is put back into the business in wages, maitainence new buildings etc; :Eeek:
     
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    Yes but No but - what I am saying is they need to make more on top of the costs of their existing facilties because they are always expanding - for their members benefit!

    Costly getting planning permission in Green Belt.
     
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    My problem with the CC is their use of overflow pitches. Quite often, having booked months in advance, we turn up to find that there are only two or three runty little pitches left and while everyone else enjoys vistas that would rival the hanging gardens of babylon with large flat hardstandings - we are trying to park precariously on a slope from hell in the back of beyond wedged in behind the bins :Sad: No problem with that really except of course we're all paying the same price.... and we didn't book an economy pitch. On one occasion, having driven a hundred miles to get there, we were so p1ss*d off we drove all the way back again...
     
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    Grrrrr.....single supplements :Mad: !!! How about building some single rooms, please?

    Tell you what....why don't we sit in a corner counting our pennies and grumbling about the price of diesel and bread nowadays :Laughing:

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    Intresting,:Smile:

    Both clubs publish their accounts in there respective mags, and they make very interesting reading. Yes, they are always expanding and developing, and trying to out do the other, but, just look at the amount each club has in reserves, its an awful lot for a couple of "not for profit" companies.:Eek!:

    One of the clubs, not sure which one, made a "loss" on its sites department in the last accounts, but the bottom line, for the club, still indicated a "surplus of income over expenditure":Cool:

    Thats my rant over:thumb:


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  19. alan

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    we're on a c&cc club temporary holiday site in Burton Bradstock £6.30 a night i think,and its in a terrific location, 5 mins walk from village with 2 pubs .good value.
    We were on a site last week in Wareham and that was 10 mins walk from town and that was only £5.50 a night. there are some good value holiday sites but you have to get away from their main sites and have facilities to live without hookups
    Alan
     
  20. TomTee

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    Caravan Club and Profits

    I find it a bit staggering that some people think that the Caravan Club shouldn't make a profit! If it didn't make a profit it would still have its one original site. Where do these guys think the money has come from to fund this superb network of sites? Where do they think the money comes from to set up all these low-price CLs and publish their brilliant Europe books, which even people who dislike the CC, always seem to have with them when on holiday?

    The difference between the CC and a private organisation (PO) is that profits made in a PO are distributed to the shareholders. The CC is a true co-operative and all profits are ploughed back into the business and some of course are held in reserve as a hedge against bad times and for when other opportunities, such as new site locations, present themselves.

    But for me, the best thing about the CC is that it is run by caravanners and motorhomers, so its sites are designed by the people who actually use them. I've just had four weeks in Italy and not one shower had a dividing section to stop your clothes getting sprayed whilst you shower. One site had hooks outside the door so you had to expose yourself to other people before closing the door!

    This is because many commercial sites are set up by people who've never caravanned in their life and give no serious thought to our needs and concentrate on building the most economical facilities, with little thought to their usefulness.

    It should be law that every site owner has to use his own facilities for three days! They'd soon realise their limitations!

    The CC may not always be perfect but there's no doubt in my mind that it's the perfect model - a company that is owned by its members, that ploughs back every penny into the business and where all major policy decisions are taken by committees of caravanners and motorhomers and not by a businessman who has never previously used a camp site in his life!
     
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