Cam belt and Service Costs.

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  1. green machine

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    Hi All :Eek!:

    I am due to have the motorhome serviced and have been phoning around to obtain several quotes. My daughter's friend works for the local Fiat dealer and has quoted £138.67 for a low milage service. £234 for a full service (air & fuel filters).

    They also stated that I should have my cam belt replaced. They said that the belt should be changed every 72,000 miles or five years.

    My vehicle is on 21,000 miles, but is just over five years old. Is this due to the rubber belt perishing and should I follow their advice. It seems very low milage to have a cam belt replaced. They have quoted £257.81 to replace the cam belt including vat.

    All the prices are with staff discount.

    Am I getting a good deal !!

    Kind Regards

    Green Machine
     
  2. simsy56

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    Its correct to have a cam belt done after 70,000 miles, or 5 years. Used for 70,000 miles the belt will probably be wearing, and 5 years the belt will probably be tired. If you were to have the thing snap, you can add a lot of money to the quote. £250 odd pounds for a belt change is very reasonable. l would certainly have it done. The heartache, and cost to repair the engine after a breakage is unimaginable, not to mention the inconvenience, and the cost of recovery.
     
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    I agree with simsy, i had a cam belt snap, it cost me around £3000 for a new engine. My m/h had done 35000 miles and 5 yrs old, Fiat Ducato 2.8idtd.
     
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    Get it done TOMORROW.

    Ours was 14,000 miles and 5 years. Belt like new but one of the pulleys was about to collapse. So the probably the best £250 you'll ever spend. A fair price.
     
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    prices seem ok and I would advise definetly having cambelt done. Make sure the tensioner is replaced at same time, reputable garages would not replace cambelt only so most likely included in price. If cambelt breaks or tensioner siezes then engine is wrecked - we have seen many instances of this & repair costs £000's and bear in mind it would possibky happen at the most inconvenient time!
     
  6. dewaltman

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    sorry if a bit thick but does a 2005 mercedes 2.7 sprintshift have a cam belt not got my service books with me
     
  7. Geo

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    Even with staff discount
    The price quoted for a low mileage service is what you should be paying for a full service including parts filters etc
    I would be suspicious of £250 for a cam belt at that price from Fiat, it probably is just the belt they have quoted for
    £250 is what you should pay for a full cam belt kit inc tensioner and idler pulleys
    The prices I quote are available at almost any independent garage, Unless you live in London
    Geo
     
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    Sprint Shift is not a recognised model
    if you mean a Sprinter with the 216 cdI, 316 cdI, 416cdI, 616cdI Engines
    Then they are all chain driven
    Geo
     
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    Thats right, l forgot to mention that you should have the tensioner and idler pulleys replaced with the belt. If they are included in the quote, thats a good price.
     
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    thanks geo i meant a 316 sprinter
     
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    I found out about candmauto.co.uk on another site and had a look, have been in touch and they have quoted £199 for belt change complete with rollers etc. Apparently they charge this price across the range of Fiats on the basis that some you win and some you lose - they also carry out all service work.

    Although we live on the Isle of Wight we will be on the mainland in April and May (joining you at Peterborough) and have sorted the itinerary to take in Lancaster to let them do the work. They also have parking with services for the MH and offer a courtesy car.

    Well worth a look at their web page if you can get to the address without too many additional miles.
     
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    Also remeber at Fiat or any main dealer for £200 you get low milage service :RollEyes:
    oil and filter and top up fluids thats yer lot no wheels off, Probably no wheels off on a full dealer service (they say every thing is self adjusting):Doh:
    Pay good pea nuts, you get good monkeys:Wink:
    Better than paying for Gorrilas and getting chimps:cry:
    Geo
     
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    Cam belt and Service Costs

    Just had a full service, cam belts and m. o. t, on a Hymer a class, £360 brilliant man.
     
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    Idiot really - he's working for peanuts.
     
  18. seariderab

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    cambelts

    just been quoted £ 63 81+vat belt +tensioner kit fiat 2.8tdi year 2000 to buy not fitted
     
  19. Geo

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    Be very wary of cheap pattern parts:cry:
    this is one area you cant skimp on:Eek!:
    Were paying around £80 -£90 trade for Gates or equivalent kit and were paying that for our own protection I can get £50 kits too but don't:Doh:
     
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    Belt and tensioner is definitely not something to be skimped as I have recently learned the hard way. As the third or fourth owner (I'm not actually sure) of a 9 year old Hymer B694 I'm not precisely sure about its service history although most of the invoices are present and there seems to have been a belt change some 4 years ago. However I don't know about the tensioner.

    About 3 weeks ago we were driving to the UK and about 170km south of Calais there was a loud thump on the right side of the engine and suddenly no power. This was on the motorway with heavy snow falling. Anyway the van is eventually repatriated to a Fiat Professional dealer near where we live courtesy of Safeguard insurance and they tell me the timing belt broke, the tensioner pulley had sheared off the retaining stud, broken the cover and damaged the crank sensor and radiator. After fixing/replacing those things they found the valves had contacted the pistons, which I guess is inevitable, so new valves and valve guides were necessary together with head machining.

    Total cost nearly £4300 most of which is labour as the engine is so inaccessible on a Hymer A class.

    So if in doubt, change the belt and pulley with proper, reliable bits!

    Cheers from a chastened (and poorer)

    Mike
     
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