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  1. Jackomet

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    Guys,
    I'm seeing their name about a lot lately, apparently sold 6 at NEC the other week
    How many of us (mine next week) are there?
    Jack
     
  2. zaskar

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    Well come next Saturday, there's gonna be one more!:BigGrin:
     
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    Congrats Jack/Zaskar! :Smile:

    What have you guys gone for, a complete rig or have you sourced the truck separately?

    I'm hoping to find the right one at the forthcoming Peterborough show, or better still, the Newbury show which is earlier.

    I'd also be interested to know what length trailer you have both decided on, and whether you intend to tour across the channel or UK only. One of my worries is the fact we're not allowed to use Aires however, after getting hold of Mo & Dick's Big Pitch Guide for Europe I'm not as worried as I was as there seems to be plenty of sites that can accomodate a largish rig. I'm thinking of a Dodge Ram (petrol/LPG) / 30-35' tralier combo.

    Good luck guys, I'm well-jealous! :thumb:
     
  4. zaskar

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    Getting a KountryLite 26 High Profile but with rear end lounge (you wont find it on the web site:Wink:) plus a few other mods re- cupboards in the bedroom etc.
    Its a 27 footer and is as big as you'd want to go with a Euro pick-up.

    Reason we went for it it cos we're Fulltimers.
    We've had 10 wonderfull years Fulltiming in American A class RV's but eventually the running costs and a ream of engine, bodywork and equipment problems made us think that although we could replace our poorly RV with a better one, we simply couldn't keep spending 30K or so every 5-6 years and STILL have something left for retirement. A VERY tough decision, but common sense prevailed.

    We've tried an Abbey Spectrum 535 twin axle caravan with large Fiamma awning for 10 months now and have decided that such a unit simply isn't good enough for Fulltiming through British winters. It's a lovelly, warm, comfy piece of kit but it misses the absolute essentials for Fulltiming (or long terming) such as on board stroage and fresh/waste tanks.
    If I was at the stage in life where I was overwintering in Spain, I'd think SERIOUSLY about keeping the caravan, but we're not. We've got a fair way to go yet and I intend to spend it in the best comfort I can afford and still leave some for later in life.:BigGrin: Always a balancing act innit!:Wink:

    To this end, we think that a 5ver plus Nissan Navara will give us the best of both worlds.........hopefully.
    We'll get the space, luxury, tanks and storage of a Yank, but with a comparatively economical European pick up for towing, sightseeing and commuting, tho' most of the latter is done in ffiona's Citreon C1 at about a million miles to the gallon!:Eeek::BigGrin:

    If, and I mean IF, I was doing a European tour, I'd seriously think about a Yank pick up due to the weight. Lets have it right, even chipped, a Navara isn't going to be a rocket ship with that lot hanging off the back. As it is, our milage is mainly limited to short trips around the CL's in Cheshire every 28 days with only 2 BIG milage trips per year, Normandy in the spring and (hopefully) the south of France in the Summer.

    In your case, given the size of the rig you want, there is no option but to go for a Yank pick up OR some sort of UK truck conversion.

    As far as the continent goes, I've never really understood all the comments I've read on Forums like this re access for large-ish rigs on French sites.
    ffi' and I had a 34ft RV and went to France twice a year for 10 years and I recon I could count on the fingers of less than one hand the times when we were stuck for pitch access.
    I genuinly believe that as far as France goes, it's just not worth worrying about up to the 34ft area. I do, however think that 35 foot of 5ver PLUS a Ram on the front is going to be pushing it a bit.
    Spain tho', might be a different matter. My experience there is limited to walk in visits when I've been visiting my folks who live there. Every site I've visited has been very tight, packed and expensive.......to the tune that we think we might end up somewhere like Portugal instead.

    Dream on..................:Cool::BigGrin:
     
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    Hi Zaskar

    Thanks for the very informative reply.

    I'm sure the choice you have made will be perfect for your needs as you have the advantage of many years experience, so you can see the bigger picture, whereas this is my first introduction to motorhoming.

    Although I know we're going to love the experience, I've been worried about not making the wrong decision when it comes to vehicle length etc. as I don't want to be regretting it down the line. I'm now thinking sticking to a trailer no longer than 31/32' will probably be the way to go for us. I hadn't realised how tough this was going to be!!

    Hopefully meet up with you on our travels one day! :thumb:

    Thanks again,

    Paul
     
  6. tonka130

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    As soon as i've sold my demountable (hopefully this weekend), i'll be onto Alex to order a 22' 'euro' 5ver (Alex reckon's about 6 weeks turn around on one).

    We were going to go for a 26' low profile, rear lounge, but as we like CL's and are years away from fulltiming, this will do us well. Luckily enough he had one at the NEC, albeit only just.
     
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    ........and very nice it was to.
    Must admit I was very impressed with the layout, but as we're fulltimers, I think the KountryLite will be better suited to our particular needs.
    Roll on Saturday when we go up to sign on the dotted line!:BigGrin::Eeek::BigGrin:

    You know those times when you're both excited (at the prospect of a new home:BigGrin::BigGrin:) but terrified (about the amount of money involved!:Eeek:).?
     
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    I've sort of got the opposite at the mo, with losing a home:cry:, and worrying about the amount of dosh I will get for it :Eek!:, oh the joys of ebay.
     
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    Hi

    Hi Zaskar
    We have a 24ft Amerilite that we tow with a 54 plate 150 bhp common rail Navara we took it to Bavaria last summer and being a truck driver we didnt hang around much
    You are right about it not being a racing car but it did all we asked with 5er heavily loaded both ways we averaged about 20 MPG overall with very little solo mileage
     
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    Hiya Yetties!:BigGrin:
    Thanks for the info, much appreciated and always better to hear the experiences of "real" people rather than salesmans blurb!:Wink:

    At 150bhp, I'm guessing you have a D22? We're after a D40 Auto at 171 standard, 204 chipped so I think the extra weight of the KountryLite should be balanced by the greater horsepower..........we'll see.:BigGrin:
    I like coments like " it did everything we asked of it". Never been a flyer in any of my rigs. Happy at 60 on the inside lane and we get to the top when we do. That's plenty good enough for me and, I think, a sacrifice worth paying for onsite comfort.
    The 20MPG is VERY impressive, I'm pleased at that as I was banking on 17 and will be quite happy with that after 11 from my RV (9 if you count the west coast of Scotland!:Eeek:).
    Keep in touch, via PM if you like, I'd be very pleased to hear of your experiences of using a 5ver in the UK.
    All the best:BigGrin:
     
  11. Jackomet

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    Got it!

    Went to Calder Leisure on Wednesday and picked up the Kountrylite 26 rear kitchen.
    They put your on a campsite about 1m from their place, very clean etc. while they "do" the Navara. Mine had already been chipped (58 plate) and I was geeting 30+ mpg no towing. This is now about 19 mpg with the Mothership on the back.
    The guys who do the mods were really friendly bunch of guys and did a great job.
    Tip* make sure you have your lockable wheel nut remover with you, I thought I had left mine and just before they were about to gride them off, I found it.
    CL lend you a car and we stayed in the area, windy/cold/rain etc. until Saturday morning. The unit was very impressive, warm, stable and better than we expected all round.
    On Friday you get to test drive your NEW navara and 5er, reversing etc.
    Tip* if you have not done it before practice hitching/unhitching, we did'nt, just watched it a couple of times and lost a lot of time(and embasresment on the camp site)
    There were a few "snags" but CL just fixed/adjusted there and then, really good people to do business with. On friday night Alex and Marguerite came round far a final chat and check if we were OK with everything, not many sales people do that.
    We had to drive it back here, Sussex, and managed OK until 500 yards from the storage area, coming round a mis-judged bend, rigs rhs wheels fell into stream. Ripped the steps off, they just bounced out (in future fix a lock to them). So looked like a major "large vechicle mover job" moment.
    I noticed I still had 6 feet or so in a straight lin before I hit the other side of the hedge so I put the truck in low 4wd, hit the gas and the bloody thing just pulled it out!!
    Amazing power!
    Good news, apart from the steps, which are been welded back into shape today, no other damage just some minor scratches to the skirt.
    Now parked up safe and sound. Off to Spain in May.
    Good luck
    Jack
     
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    Hi Jack.
    Congratulations on the new rig, you must be tickled pink!:thumb::BigGrin::thumb:
    Great to here that the buying experience was a pleasurable one as well. I think when you're spending that sort of dosh, it's much nicer if the people you have to deal with are pleasant and not a case of only having to deal with them so that you can get what you want! Must admit that Alex was great with us when we went up to order.
    We've just been given a shipping date of 21 April!!!!!! On pins or what!!!!!! ?:BigGrin:
    If you could post (or PM) in a bit more detail reagrding manouvreing, towing ability/motorway speed and stability with the Navara, I'd be really gratefull.
    Forewarned is forearmed, as they say.:thumb:
    Happy travels.:thumb:
    Zaskar
     
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    Cl kl26rk

    Z,
    Reversing,
    I had reversed a small trailer a couple of times 30 years ago!
    I spent about 1 hr playing with the rig on an industrial estate till I got the hang of it, still need some more practice but I'm getting there, the twin axles seem to want to fight each other all the time and are squ whif (?) at end. I guess it depends on your experiance, looks like you've got a lot more than me, but overall reversing this rig seems OK. (We went for a reversing camera as well)
    Towing
    0-60 mph, measure in months. Need lots of time pulling out. Once at 60, in cruise, absolutely no problem. Up there and coming back there were high winds, hardly any effect (except miliage dropped to 17mpg)
    Basically if you are not in a hurry, and we are not, the Navara is great, btw they equip it with adjustable suspension (very good) and trailer braking system, the braking is awsome!
    When you buy something sometimes you think "that's not quite right" or "this does not feel good". Well all I/we thought was "This is it, bang on, no probs"
    Look forward to April mate.
    Regards
    Jack:thumb:
     
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    The big day today Zaskar! :thumb:

    Hope it's gone well.

    Paul
     
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    I WISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cry::cry::cry::cry:
    Alex was on the phone at w/e. Delivery now 25th May, hopefully, for definate this time!:thumb:
    Never mind, at least it gives me time to find that elusive Navara!:Rofl1:
    To say ffi' and I are on pins would be putting it midly!!!!!:Rofl1:

    Thanks for the good wishes, I'll keep you all informed.........believe me, you'll hear me from Edinburgh!:Rofl1:
     
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    Bad luck! Never mind, not too long to wait. You'll look back and laugh about this one day! :Smile:
    Keep us posted! :thumb:

    Paul
     
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    Bad news or what!
    We too are crossing the days off the calender (like being a kid again, with an extremely long advent calender), worse for you though as xmas just went back a month.
    Our 22' Euro is supposed to be leaving the factory in early May, for early June collection. Going by your delay, I reckon i'd better brace myself for July delivery.

    'good things come to those that wait', and at least we all know Calder 5vers are worth waiting for.

    Steve
     
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    Now those 22's are NICE! Saw it at the NEC and INSTANTLY fell in love with the layout.
    If we just wanted a "holiday" 'van or a "Spain overwintering" 'van they would be right at the top of our list.:thumb:
    Good choice!:thumb:
     
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    Hi Zaskar

    Sorry to hear about your delayed delivery May must seem like its an age away now think I could have been rather less than polite being given the news of a delay like that.

    One of the reasons I got a D22 was we had thoughts of maybe fulltiming at some point and if we do go that route it should limit how much we will loose money wise also we can see how we get on with the 5er we have.

    For full timing we would want to up size but until we have done a couple of seasons on and off sites with our hobby we wont know how much bigger is practical.

    All the best and as I said in the pm if you fancy a chat you have my number

    Neil
     
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    Zaskar,
    The 22' came along just at the right time, we were going to go bigger but this will be ideal. We can only get away a week or two at a time for the next few years, and as we love C.L's this will fit the bill perfectly.
    It's not massive, but compared to the Northstar demountable that we have used for the last three years, it's like the albert hall!
    Steve.
     

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