FreddieBoxall
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Can anyone recommend a non toll route with stopovers from Calaise to Portugal
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I can tell you NOT to use the coast road from porto to Figueria da foz. Portugal is a third world country when it comes to roads and drivers.
Ever had people run into their houses and put the shutters down on you because you happened to stroll into their neighbourhood ? Ever had a self appointed car park attendant deliberately take the back end of your van out ? I did, I found the Portuguese in general miserable rude and unfriendly (unless they were taking your money) which no doubt they have been off you! Driving was really bad, especially the reversing onto the main roads business. There were quite a few high points in Portugal but the roads and the miserable stary people were the lows. Avoid the locals and some of the bad food and roads and I think you will be fine.@campa cola
Ive just had a thought, (careful Shawn) perhaps its reverse psychology. You make it sound like Portugal is not worth visiting, keeping it nice and quiet for those of us here. Now I do like that thinking.
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Oh well, I have travelled enough countries (must be 17 at least now in the MH and a total travel of the world of 54 countries all round the world and counting) to know who is generally what. I agree the younger Portugese are more open. Many of The older ones seem to still think they are living in a fascist regime and the slightest hint of openess might end up with them in some police station. I find people in the UK far more polite, open and friendly kinder and far better drivers than the Portugese. Clearly we have vastly different experiences.@campa cola
Don't really know what to say to that. Not how we've found it at all.
Generally find the Portuguese will go out of their way to help with anything. I'll agree they do like to use the whole road so you have to be extra careful on the corners.
Any socialising that we've done I have to be quiet insistent that we pay our way as they just keep wanting to pay for drinks and food. Only Sunday night we went for a drink in a bar after a concert and a young chap wanted to pay for our drinks as he wanted to speak English with us, no ulterior motive just to have a conversation. Find it all quiet humbling really. Not how I've found the past few years living in the UK at all.
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