cab heaters

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  1. mythor

    mythor Read Only Funster

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    Hi all any help would be good I have a 1991 Kon Tiki 6 berth.

    We were away before Christmas to Wales. We were as warm as toast while parked in sites . But OMG while driving, on went the thermals, ski pants, thermal socks, fur lined crocks, body warmers,The only one who was not cold was the dog who remained on and under his blankets with hot water bottle. Husbend it was hot water bottle and blankets. (though he still complained ) as we drove north after christmas returning home it got steadly colder and colder, Heater in cab is not good ( clearly). thought my nose would fall off. On return I bought a plug in heater thought this would be the answer but tried it in the car this morning it is not going to be much use so for the MH it will be usless. I have heard that some thing can be added to gas bottle so Heating can be left on while driving. But have been told that this could be fitted to MH after 2004 I was wondering if anyone has heard of this regulator being fitted to old girls like mine.
    Sorry for the long Saga still mindful of the cold as we are still in the minus as is the rest of the country. Any help would be WARMLY welcomed.
    Ann
     
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    Our MH has Webasto , diesel heating. Its brilliant.
    Though having never had another MH before this , only caravans with the blown air truma heaters , I dont know any different.
    The dealer did say that webasto and being fully winterized was a good bonus to the Van though. At the time the weather was mild and although we took on board what he said, we didn't fully appreciate it. Though do now:Wink:
    Its on when you drive and the heat comes out of all the air vents. We hardly used any gas over the new year, just for cooking.
    The down side is it can take it out of the batteries. You need 2 good ones.
    Though once its warmer we are fixing the solar panel on the roof, to help charge them up.
    Bev
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    Ralph says have you thought about a power inverter and a low wattage mains powered heater.
     
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    Better option and a lot cheaper would be a split charge relay to top up leisure batts whilst running from your alternator, or have I missed/lost something in the translation:Doh:
    Geo
     
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    Thanks Geo, weve already got one on. Its when we are parked up for a few days not out charging the batteries thats the problem , though it could have been the - temps too.
    Weve already got the 87 watt solar panel ( took it of the caravan before px ing) just waiting for the thaw so it will stick:thumb:
    Bev
     
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    Ah!! thats cos the original poster was concerned with heating on the move
    Its your fault I blame you
    Its never me honest:Doh: ask the wife:thumb:
    Im not perfect but im so close its scary:RollEyes:
     
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    What is stopping you using the gas heating? If it does operate on the move then use it, I used to when I needed it.
     
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    I have a 1997 Elddis on a fiat ducato cab, my heater is worse than a warm f*rt,as suggested in the post above, I run with the heating on if its cold, it seems to work fine while on the move and the hab area is nice and warm when you get on site.

    regards, John
     
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    Before you spend money on alternatives I would look at why the van heater is so bad.
    It is 25 years since I was in a motor with a poor heater.

    Is the cab heater working at all?
    Has some well meaning but incompetent person removed the engine thermostat?

    Has the heater matrix got gunged up and needs replacing or just flushed out?

    Have you blocked up any source of drafts around pedals, steering column or other vents.
    If all else is well you could fit a Kenlow electric fan to replace a fixed radiator fan (if applicable).
    Why pay for gas to heat the back on the move when there is oodles of waste heat from the engine

    In years gone by it was common to fit a radiator blind to cut down on the amount of cold air reaching the engine. ( or even just a sheet of tin foil over part of the radiator)

    All engines create a tremendous amount of heat which has to be got rid off - use it.
     
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    I think the problem is that these heaters are designed for vans with bulkheads in, ie, only heating a small area. the other problem is to access the blower/matrix you have to remove the whole dash:Sad: Ive flushed mine and checked the stat etc, the engine just doesnt get hot in v cold weather, its ok most of the time. I may have to go looking for one of the grill cover I used to have on my old landrover or go back to the hassle of changing over stats come winter/summer. I find it easier to put the heating on low.
     
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    If its the old type Sevil cab, you will find a scoop fitted over the bonnet heater intake works wonders.
    They used to be available from a company called Delfin Designes,they were in,around Poole Dorset, and used to advertise in MMM.
     
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    I have been told others put a curtain up behind the seats which isolates the cab from the habitaion part making a much smaller space to heat up.
     
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    Our Laika has a heater matrix with a fan in the living quarters and it gets really warm.
    as soon as we stop we put the gas heating on :Smile::Smile:

    The heater matrix in the back is only about 10 inches big with a fan attached and fits in one of the bays, would be an easy addition for those with cold rear ends :Blush: :Smile:
     
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    Heat? Where?

    We have a Carioca on a Fiat Ducatto base. (2006 - so I would expect better)

    Have noticed that the heater control has to be on the hotest setting to get any heat out of the heater. If we move only 5mm off the Red then it starts blowing cold air.

    Also the Radio CD cannot play CD's as they get so hot that they stop playing.

    When the weather warms up a bit! we are planning on taking out the radio to check whether the heater cowling has been knocked off when the radio was fitted.
     
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    Another possibility is that if you've had a lot of extra soundproofing round the engine, you might be keeping the warm air (from the engine area) out as well as the noise. Sometimes, you pays your money and takes your choice, I'm afraid, and the Ducato cab is pretty noisy.
     
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    I would hope that none of the (smelly) air around the engine finds its way into the cab!
     
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    think they're talking about engine heat transfer through the bulkhead....best stick with the cool heater i reckon.
     
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    No one has asked and no one has volunteered any info as to what 8l00dy engine this van has.:Doh:
     
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    Try this

    http://www.truma.com/truma05/en/products/detail2_en_78791.html

    I think that is all you will require
     
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    re heater kon tiki

    Just thought I would let you no Motor home is going in for new therm. hoping heater will work better But thank you to the person who suggested Curtins between cab and van I made thermal curtins it made a Huge difference. Was away last weekend in Aveimore Cold temps and snow. Cab was much warmer, Could not believe it but of course it makes sense. I also had problems not being able to get speedo cable well I am having one made by Speedograph in Nottingham. Now if the window would stop leaking I would be sorted.( for now anyway)!!!:Wink:
    ann
     
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    Which window?

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