Buying Older Model, Fuel Consumption Concerns

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  1. FrCrilly

    FrCrilly Read Only Funster

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    Hi All,

    I’m researching to buy a camper on a small budget. As I have adequate experience and knowledge of running older vehicles, I’m planning to go for a 4-5 berth from the late 1980s to the early 1990’s, most likely a Ford Transit due it being a common van with parts being more available. My plan is to do plenty of work on the van, make it reliable and then build the confidence to drive it for regular weekend breaks and also to tour it on the continent for up to 3 weeks of the year.

    Something I have yet to research is fuel consumption. I’m concerned that with buying such an old vehicle, that I may find my travel plans unviable due to its gas guzzling properties.

    If anyone has any tips or information that could help me deal with this concern, I am all ears. All help will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks In Advance for all responses.
     
  2. Johns_Cross_Motorhomes

    Johns_Cross_Motorhomes Trader - Motorhome & Accessory Sales

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    All motorhomes are built on commercial can chassis cabs so there should not be a problem with mechanical parts from breakers.

    Buy a diesel with power steering and check for damp. rot and rust are the primary concerns.

    Peter
     
  3. Snowbird

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    The Transit is a good option,as long as you steer clear of the York engine,the turbo engine and the overdrive gearbox.
    The ramair engine is the most reliable,the one with the bunch of bananas on the top.
    Even if you buy one of the others,there are plenty of second hand engines available cheaply now to do a transplant with.
    There is always the Merc engined models,but they do tend to be more thirsty even if more reliable.
    Then of course you have the tried and tested Fiat 2.5 diesel,if you go down this route always go for the turbo,if you want to be frugal with fuel.
    The none turbo Fiats were not very good on fuel.
     
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    hi and welcome,, up till almost 2 years ago i had a petrol talbot auto sleeper talisman,, 1985 model. driven with care, 28/32 mpg, driven hard 18/22. travelled all over europe. no power steering, only a problem parking in tight spot,, easy,, dont park in tight spot, the engines are bomb proof. the parts are still easy to get, not as many in scrap yards as transits,, ??? fibre glass body, the other bodies make them very cheap, so why not,, buy cheap. get breakdown cover, and spend the extra on fuel, wild camp or aires and you can do it just fine,, again, welcome and good luck,,,,:thumb::thumb::thumb:
     
  5. rainbow chasers

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    As peter said, damp rot and rust! The old ones have that aplenty - do lots of research, and learn what you can get for your money. The prices on older ones vary so much it beggars beleif. Keep your head screwed on, and look. Always remember, that however nice it looks, or appears - what else could you buy with that money??

    To give an example, these are just two I have seen recently - suitability depends on your circustances, but it gives an idea of what you should be looking for.

    D reg Ford Transit Holdsworth, 2 berth, 2.0l Petrol 130,000 miles. Rusty - £4,600

    R reg Mazda Bongo 2 Berth, New Conversion, 56,000 miles, mint - £3500

    It just gives a rough idea, both models have their strong points and weak points, but if you are after a two berth with no shower, then both would be suitable. The latter may hold its' value better and look newer - it also costs just over a grand less!
     
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    If your worried about putting petrol in your proposed motorhome so you can enjoy it and it concerns you are you sure you can afford to run it at all??

    Theres no point in buying something that you think you might not be able to run is there?? If your in doubt dont buy one then the problem wont occur will it??? :Doh:
     
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    You won't go far wrong with a Transit.

    I own a 1993 direct injection diesel which makes it seventeen years old.......but, and this a is very important point to bear in mind, parts are still easily available both in the UK and Europe. Not only are they plentiful and cheap, you will also be able to source good used parts from many breakers. As an example there was a poster on this board a few months ago who could not even get a fuel filler cap for his five year old Fiat! Personally I find something like that totally unacceptable.

    Transit engines are extremely reliable and will throb away forever and a day because they are basic, fairly crude engineering. Economy is good, damned good for a heavy vehicle (I get better mpg from the Transit than my 1.8 petrol Focus car). My Transit returns an average of 35mpg and have had as much as 40-42mpg.

    Fancy engineering may look impressive or sound good.......until it breaks down and you have to start searching for the part which in some cases can only be bought on the other side of the globe. Thats no good and not much fun if you are broken down in some remote are of the UK or Europe.
     
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    HI.BUY A TRANSIT OR A MERCEDES AND IT WILL RUN FOREVER.
    SLIGHTLY HIGHER OUTLAY WILL MORE THAN PAY FOR ITSELF.
    WHO WANTS MODERN JUNK WITH DODGY GEARBOXES AND ELECTRONIC NONSENSE?
    NOT US....:BigGrin:
     
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    Many are quite sceptical of imports parts, they are readily available now, and in the case of the bomgo/freda (ford version) they all run the WLT engine which is seen in the uk as the Mazda Pick up/B2500 van/ Ford Ranger. So if you blow a head, or a turbo, there are plenty around!
     
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