Buying in Spain

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  1. Finnsgran

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    My husband and I want to buy a new motorhome and are moving to Spain next week. Unfortunately we won't be able to get to Dusseldorf show. I would love to have a Rapido 660FF or similar layout but would like to see them first. We are both Olympic Gold Medal snorers and although it will just be the 2 of us, we need separate space so that we can get a proper sleep. Is it best to buy in Germany where we can see lots of different makes and models, or should we buy in Spain to avoid paperwork problems.
     
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    Best get to Spain first and check out all the import rules and costs. If it's left hand drive, hab door on the correct side and as new it will have a Certificate of Conformity then registration should not be an issue. However I know there are import taxes based on the retail price etc and it's not cheap so do your Homework !!!!!
     
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    We're having enough hassle with pensions, banks, house selling and moving stuff to Spain, I think we will take the easy option and buy in Spain. This old head can't take any more homework!!!
     
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    We have bought 2 vans in Spain, the first New the other second hand.
    Buying the new one was quite simple if you ( The buyer) had the correct paperwork.
    Buying secondhand was also simple, but some taxation issues would need to be addressed, transfer of ownership, if I remember correctly carried an hefty 7%.
    Also the market is very different, and choice could be an issue, check the net for stockists.
    Our current Spanish registered van was imported before we bought it, we have the importation receipts, this in itself would make your eyes water.
    Like the previous post, do your homework before your venture, and we wish you happy travels and welcome to Spain.
     
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    When you say that buying new is quite simple if you have the correct paperwork - what paperwork do you need?
     
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    You do not have to pay the 'special import tax' if you register the vehicle in Spain within 6 months of becoming resident.
     
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    Great. We will probably not be able to get one too quick as we are buying new and they might not have the one we want in stock.
     
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    If you are buying a property in Spain then you should have the correct paperwork.
    NIE number is a must and depending where you are going to live a Padron may be requested to buy/register the vehicle.
    If you decide to buy and import then a left hand drive is very important for motorhomes.
     
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    If you will be resident in Spain surely it will be easiest to buy through a Spanish dealer. You will probably find dealerships representing most of the manufacturers. New car dealers in Spain are quite prepared to negotiate on price so MH dealers might well do the same.
     
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    We live in Spain and looked at various import options before deciding that it was simpler and cheaper in the long run to buy from a Spanish dealer.

    You should double-check the qualification time for import of vehicles relative to your residencia application/approval. I seem to recall 30 days being more like it.
     
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    It is definitely not within 30 days of becoming resident but you do need to obtain a piece of paper from the British Embassy/Consulate in Spain for which they charge about 80 Euros :mad:

    I now recall that there is another restriction on avoiding the 'special import duty' in that you must have owned and had the vehicle registered in another country for at least 6 months.

    Overall, better to buy new from a Spanish dealer who will register the vehicle for you and there should also no issues about warrenty.
     
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    I believe you are correct with the 6 months (180 days) rule in respect of prior ownership:

    http://spain.angloinfo.com/transport/vehicle-ownership/eu-vehicle/

    The 30 days I mentioned is the time you have in which to register the vehicle after it arrives in the country.

    I think the key point for the OP is that buying in Germany, say, and importing to Spain looks attractive financially until you start to look deeper into the re-registration charges and taxes here in Spain.
     
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    Yes, it is all too easy to inadvertantly fall foul of one of the many stipulations in Spain. Easier and safer to buy in Spain at the outset even though it migh theoretically be slightly cheaper to buy in another country. I believe if you buy a new vehicle in Germany for 'export' to another EU country you still have to pay all the relevant purchase taxes and VAT applicable in Germany and can not buy the vehicle 'tax free'.
     
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    The 30 days applies from registering on the padron. ( electoral roll ) over that time tax is payable. There isn't a requirement to be a Spanish resident to be able to buy.
     
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    No, you do not have to be a Spanish resident to buy or indeed import a vehicle but, from what I understand, you do have to be a Spanish resident to avoid having to pay the 'special import duty'.
     
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    That's my understanding, too. If nothing else, the fact that 3 Spanish resident expats aren't 100% clear and in agreement on the regs is proof that you need to check and check again before making any significant financial decisions of this kind. :)
     
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    Thanks everyone for the advice. We are travelling on the ferry from Portsmouth to St Malo on the 5th of September and are going to stop at Madrid where there are lots of motorhome dealers. We will have a good look round at them all and hopefully we will be able to get advice (if any of them speak English).

    We will become Spanish residents and, if it's the case that we will be saving on any kind of tax, we will do this immediately!!!
     
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    Be warned that apart from the costs involved in importing a vehicle into Spain, there can also be negative issues when you eventually come to get it ITV'd (MOT). we have friends who have given up trying to get their imported cars/caravans/motorhomes ITV'd, and sold them, because of the nit-picking over documents if the vehicle wasn't purchased in Spain.
    We bought our Rapido in Spain, but the chances of getting to view the model you want to buy here are not good. Try and find a British dealer with one or a show exhibiting one before you come to Spain.
    Which part of Spain are you thinking of moving too? We have had some pretty bad experiences of Spanish Rapido dealers which we'd be happy to share with you as and when you are ready to buy here.
    A very useful guide for obtaining info on vehicles in Spain is http://n332.es/ set up by the Policia Locale for British Expats.

    Good luck!
     
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    Firstly you will need to be on the padron in the place you live, without that nothing happens. Then you will need a Spanish bank account unless you are buying cash as "HP" in Spain is a pain, if you are not a Spanish resident. Insurance for MH is around 700 euro's+ depending on age and as your MH will be new it will be much higher. Lastly getting to become a Spanish residents is not a quick fix and can take up to 6 months and don't forget your driving licence with MUST be changed to a Spanish one after 180 days or living in Spain full time. If you are retiring before 65 years of age THINK HARD before giving up UK as you will loose loads ie: EHIC card UK health when back in UK for break etc.
    This is fact why because we did it 4 years ago and we are still sorting things out......... A nightmare if you are below the retirement age................. OH......... speaking Spanish is a MUST to get 90% of things done unless you use the Ex Pat system and then you get ripped off by......... EX PATS.
    Good luck
     
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    We've been out here for nearly 12 years and can vouch for the frustrations you'll have to cope with dealing with Spanish bureaucracy. However, it's not the end of the world and with patience all comes to fruition in the end. Certainly you'll be better off if you have some basic Spanish language skills but you'll find that many offices do have English-speaking staff and if you try in Spanish first, they will meet you halfway. :)

    Re the EHIC, once you have Spanish residency and are covered by the Spanish health system (another thing for you to investigate!) you get the same EHIC only issued by Spain not the UK. This will cover you for all your travels in Europe, including back to the UK, of course.

    We bought a new Adria MH from a very good dealership in Elche. Happy to recommend although they aren't Rapido agents. Our fully comp insurance costs 540 euros a year.
     
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