Buying a second hand motorhome

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  1. Welsh girl

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    We have negotiated a deal to buy a used motorhome from a dealer,put a deposit down but on a second look found what I think is a damp patch in the ceiling. Above the sink at the rear of the motorhome. On mentioning this to the dealer they then showed me the damp check they did when receiving the vehicle in for part X. No sign of damp in the aforementioned place.
    It's an 09 autotrail cheyenne.
    They are sending another expert in today to confirm their findings. We put a deposit of £2000 before finding this. Do I have to continue with purchase or lose my deposit if I don't?
    We had a nightmare with a previous damp problem with a swift voyager we had losing lots of money off loading it so don't want another nightmare like it.
    The dealer is local to us in Somerset and has confirmed that they are transparent and would deal with any problems should they occur in the warranty period of 12 months.
     
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    Walk away but get money back ! If you have seen the damp without a test it must have been there a while. Good luck!
     
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    I would not rely on a damp test that the dealer carries out. Ask for your money back. If they refuse carry out your own damp test and if it's damp then demand your money back. Act now NOT after you've bought and paid for it in full.

    As you already know damp is a killer to motorhomes.
     
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    do not belive, we will fix it afterwards, buy your own damp meter learn how to use it.

    If theres a problem with the m/h they shpuld refund your deposit, dont let them fob you off with transfering it to another van you may not really want
     
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    Oops.double post
     
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    Thanks for the replies.
    I've just emailed a local independent caravan repairer to carry out a damp inspection and damp report as I don't rely on myself to get a correct result.
    Plus I think an expert report would hold more clout than just my say so.
     
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    Very wise move.. could be £100 very well spent.. worst case it's cost you some cash but a big saving on all the hassle if you went ahead and the van had ongoing issues.
     
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    I think you are handling this in totally the right way.

    As long as the repairer is independent you will have a very strong bargaining point if damp is found.

    I hope it works out for you. If they are reluctant to play ball use the Small Claims Court. I would think they would throw in the towel rather than try to defend the indefensible.

    It's for that reason that I have all annual servicing, damp checks etc. carried out by my local, independent, workshop. The supplying dealer has reason not to find damp in their checks. Sad, but true.
     
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    Good luck with this,

    one scenario that could become hard to resolve, what if the MH had damp that was properly repaired but the stained internal panel wasn't swapped, so no damp is now present, but it still shows the signs

    that would have a been a bad (lazy) repair in the first place, so thinking it through the repair may not be the best either

    best of luck
     
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    If It looks damp there is or has been an issue. If they didnt tell you about it before you paid the deposit they should give you the deposit back.
    If you paid by credit card you can contact the card company for help.

    We looked at a number of British vans and could have bought a new one for the price we paid for our used Frankia as we were amazed at some of the poor quality stuff we saw around. Its a shame as I would have rather bought British.
     
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    Search on here for Damp Meter - non contact - about £25 off ebay, then do your own check.

    Ah - seen your "I can't do it" post. Maybe not a proper full report but these meters will give a simple "25%" immediate result with the dealer standing next to you.
     
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    Thanks for that, I've got a price of £50 from an independent caravan repair specialist who will do a report that can be acted upon if the dealer gets awkward with a result of damp and won't give my deposit back and go to the small claims court as suggested on here.
    I don't want to go down that route but will if necessary as we lost over £20,000 with a previous van that had damp problems.
     
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    Bargain.

    >> we lost over £20,000 with a previous van

    That is serious.
     
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    That sounds a great idea. And so sorry about your previous van .That's a terrible amount of money to loose .
    Hymer owners on here all seem to say they don't have damp problems so perhaps that make may be best. Good luck.
     
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    Don't you believe it.
     
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    No brand has a100% no damp record, but you will struggle to beat Hymers record. Some people will critise everything but Hymers are very good.
    ps I don't have a Hymer
     
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    Sadly the British seem to make vans of sometimes dubious quality, aiming at low prices rather than longevity. Swift have in the past been prime examples from their leaky Kontiki to the disastrous floors where repair costs could be astronomical. According to their latest ads, they no longer use wood in their floors and walls (I wonder why) but still produce internal doors that seem to only meet in the middle. Autotrail do not carry the same history as Swift but I would rather play safe and buy German.
    This topic is always contentious for many people will have bought Swift and had little or no problems but as vans are very expensive, I would rather play safe.
     
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    I wonder whether the bad rep of British vans is down to the bigger market share %wise they have over individual foreign made vans, there seems me to there are lots more British built out there. It would be interesting if somebody did a comparison of damp/faulty van complaints by % market share.
     
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    I would love a hymer but prefer the English layouts.
    We spend a lot of time in the van and wouldn't like to Sit at a dinette alll day especially here in the uk with all our wet weather.
    It is our home and I wouldn't like to sit in the kitchen all day either.
    I have searched for 3 years looking for a hymer with bench seats under 3.5t with a garage. Under 7 mtrs. In our price range but been unable to find one we decided that we liked the layout of the cheyenne and compromised on the garage.
    We have ordered bike racks for our bikes.
    We like the quality of autotrail which is an 09 model. We currently have an 07 Autosleeper which we think is on a par with the quality of autotrail.
    All newish vans seem to have bad press concerning their quality recently
    We really don't want to make another costly mistake so hopefully by getting a damp report will stop that happening.
     
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    You're the same as us, I'd like a foreign van but they don't do a comfortable layout in our opinion, and many don't have decent cooking facilities. I know you're local to me, just wondered who the dealership is as we had a bad experience with our first van but I doubt it's the same place because they only offered 6 months warranty, good luck with it anyway (y)
     
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