bottle jack

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  1. bonniechris

    bonniechris Funster

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    Hi we are thinking of getting a bottle jack for the motorhome as the supplied one would be very difficult to use in emergency. has anyone any suggestions or specifics of where they can be obtained. Thanks for any input.
     
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    The only problem with a bottle jack is where you can use it if you have a puncture especially on the rear wheels. I tried on a previous van and if the tyre was flat you cannot get the jack under any jacking place as anywhere substantial was too low.

    Mike
     
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    so you drive onto blocks of wood with the flat tyre or onto the spare wheel then jack from the ground which now as clearance . for many m,homes its ideal to have two jacks .
    they really do have bad designs .
    on many if you lift on an axle you cant remove the wheel as there is no clearance .
     
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    I don't think I would be happy using a bottle jack, I would be worried of it slipping out because it's not square. The factory jack works for me in an emergency.
     
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    Our van only has the fix and go kit and we don't have the payload for a spare wheel and if we don't have a wheel then I don't see much point in carrying a jack and am thinking of leaving ours behind next time. Anyway I would always call out the breakdown rather than try to change it myself..........I have confirmed that if your van does not have a spare as standard then you are not obliged to carry one and they will recover you to a garage.

    My rational is IF we should get a puncture we will be recovered to a garage who will have access to a spare OR we will order online and have to wait a few days for delivery. Interested in your thoughts of the plan(Yes I know some people think it is crazy to set off without a spare)
     
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    I bought a 4 ton bottle jack from Machine Mart and like @vwalan suggests I also carry a decent sized block of wood too. The only snag with the jack is there is a bit of play in the pumping linkage, plus the play in the sections of the slot together handle all lead to quite a lot of "lost motion" when jacking, I improved this by making a one piece handle from a piece of gas pipe, it's no longer than my breaker bar and all fits nicely in the "man drawer"
    The thought of a puncture in the middle of nowhere with no phone signal could take the shine off your day.
     
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    i understand your rational but if we travelled mainly in u.k. ours would be the same however our motorhome used mainly in France and, and, and, where we dont have consistent internet and or dont speak the language so easily, not quite the same, on roads we dont know where etc.. Jack supplied needs a very strong arm to operate bottle jack seemed to be an easier option.
     
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    What ever you do then don't have a puncture on Any A road in France your breakdown won't cover you (check with your insurer) then need to pay the private breakdown assist or whatever they call themselves €150+ to get you off the A road not just the peage to where your b/down will cover you.:)
     
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    Roger are you saying that no breakdown cover will help you on the A road or peage with a puncture,which seems contrary to their policy.

    OR are you saying they will not help you if you do not have a spare wheel, presumably even a tyre is no good as they cannot change that by the roadside.

    I have written confirmation from Comfort/RAC that if your van is only supplied with fix and go then you will not be penalised for not having a spare and will be recovered from anywhere in Europe.

    Can I ask where do you get your information from? as I don't want to find out the hard way
     
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    It's all very well having roadside assistance etc. but when you are out in the wilds and your mobile phone has no signal and the' fix and go' doesn't work, what do you do? I carry a spare wheel, a 2 1/4 ton trolley jack and a short piece of wood to stand it on. Sacrifice some payload. Oh yes, Bottle jack? Hard work, too wobbly and awkward to work with under a vehicle with a flat tyre.
     
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    why will they not help on a A road.
     
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    On any autoroute (i.e. toll road) in France, which are numbered A something or other, only the official security service is allowed to provide assistance in the event of breakdown. They will usually call on a local contracted breakdown service to recover you off the autoroute, where your own breakdown service are allowed to take over. The aires de service are classed as off the autoroutes so your own service may assist.

    You pay the guy who actually recovers you - and have little say about it too. I was once "escorted" off the autoroute at gunpoint when my coach broke down and I tried to refuse to leave it to the breakdown truck! (Long story)
     
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    [QUOTE="webby1, post: 1509067,

    Can I ask where do you get your information from? as I don't want to find out the hard way[/QUOTE]

    Like I did when I had a blowout on the A road ,free section ,coming out of
    Le Havre tried everything with std jack leveling blocks etc etc finally gave up and called inrance co who also gave EU breakdown assist.
    After giving my location being told no you are not covered ...What !
    All A roads in France are privately owed and they call out assistance you pay and you cannot claim it back ,was told it is in the conditions of policy .small print .when back home I checked and asked various breakdown providers including RAC and a AA they told me the same thing .
    Things May have moved on in 5 years ,but now I have a good jack that works and can lift van .Once bitten ....as they say .
    So ask the Q of You breakdown :)
     
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    Sorry about the typo's predictive text
     
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    That's news to me Roger and I reckon to a lot of other people who assume their breakdown for Europe covers them exactly the same as in UK.
     
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    So found out today that cover is not exactly the same as in UK.
    You are correct Roger that you are expected to pay to be taken off the motorway.....................but she was clear that it can be reclaimed when back in UK. Good to know that and avoid arguments on the side of the motorway in an already stressful situation.................I have not seen it on any Forums before, so I do not think it is widely known.
    So now need to ascertain if that is only applicable to France, otherwise you could end up paying the craft breakdown man and trying to reclaim later only to find out it was covered anyway.
     
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    In the Uk if you are broken down on the hard shoulder the police(and possibly highways agency) have the power to use a recovery agent of their choice if yours takes too long(in their opinion).
    Not sure about reclaiming the costs.
     

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